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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:44 pm 
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Re: ID's post, I'm not sure I see the relevance. A scummy con artist makes unsubstantiated CLAIMS of connections to SOME of the casinos as a way of explaining how he was able to offer the high returns he did (the Villalobos Bros. used "factoring" as their source of profits). The article itself seemed to call into serious question the credibility of those claims and painted Milanes's business as more likely just another Ponzi scheme. It seems pretty clear successful casinos like the HDR didn't need his investments (although they may have invested with him) and he was most likely really just using the money from his later investors to pay off his earlier ones (and enlarging his Swiss bank accounts) rather than investing it into anything real, like casinos, that would offer a genuine return.


Sorry the article did not make it clear because it was about the situation today. There is no doubt that Luis Milanes, AKA "The Cuban", ran those casinos before he took the money and ran. Investors have maintained, not sure how accurately, that he still controls them.

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But what does his running of those casinos have anything to do with the allegations of drugs and prostitution going on in them. And what does the fact that a guy who had some sort of financial interest in some of the casinos and who happened to bilk people out of their money in another and arguably seperate business enterprise that he was involved in, have to do with the recent moves we've been discussing. Sure he led his investors to believe that their "profits" were derived out of some sort of connection to those casinos, but they were never really getting any sort of interest in those casinos and all of their "profits" were really just coming from later investors. What those casinos were to Milanes, was a place for him to reinvest his ill-gotten gains. If there was any more provable legal connection than that, I suppose his investors would be going after the casinos for re-imbursement rather than trying to hunt Milanes down in El Salvador. After all, they are physical tangible assets in their own country. The thing is I haven't heard of anybody pursuing that angle and all the recent moves against the casinos have been based on rationales that have nothing to do with who might own or have a financial interest in the casinos.

It was an interesting article though. :)


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Geez Pro. Give us a break. All I said was "Do you have the same warm fuzzy feeling about this guy?" after Californicationdude wrote "I cannot believe Big John at the DR would be involved with the drug trade"

Now you can make of that whatever you want but I believe most here understood the point. Either way I'm done with the topic except to say the investors were trying to prove he still controlled the casinos and they did not hunt him down in El Salvador. Carry on if you choose.

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It would be nice and convenient if drugs were served at the casinos.

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Californicationdude wrote:
I cannot believe Big John at the DR would be involved with the drug trade.


If pu*sy is a drug, and for some it is, then he is smack dap in the middle of it! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Prolijo wrote:
all the recent moves against the casinos have been based on rationales that have nothing to do with who might own or have a financial interest in the casinos.


Actually, the primary impetus for the regulation of casinos was exactly who might own them. Last year, Michael Boettcher, CEO of Storm International, the largest casino operators in Russia, announced that they were planning on opening a casino in San José. The announcement was made on Bloomberg. Boettcher said that they were looking for new locations because the Putin government had initiated restrictions in Russia that would close their casinos in Moscow and St. Petersburg. They were initially looking at relocating to Armenia and Costa Rica.

All this came as a surprise to authorities here. Needless to say, they were not pleased to hear about in the media before being contacted directly. Concern about the Russian Mafia, money-laundering and Costa Rica becoming a magnet for other foreign casino operators prompted the new regulations. Prostitution, although one of the concerns, seems to have been thrown in as somewhat of an after-thought. My assumption is that their initial concern, with regard to prostitution, may have been more from the point of view of the introduction of trafficking from Eastern Europe. This is not to say that they don't also want to put the lid on the more home-grown variety.


http://www.nacion.com/ln_ee/2008/abril/10/pais1494399.html

http://www.nacion.com/ln_ee/2008/febrero/27/economia1440416.html

http://www.aldia.cr/ad_ee/2008/febrero/29/nacionales1444650.html

http://www.aldia.cr/ad_ee/2008/marzo/01/nacionales1445152.html

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