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Did Mikey Get What He Deserved?
Yes 62%  62%  [ 58 ]
No 38%  38%  [ 36 ]
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:12 am 
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Welcome to hell, Mikey. Sorry to say. Had a similar experience myself after a 15 year stint at marriage. After 3 years it still sux ass. Still gotta see that cunt on a regular basis because of the K*ds. Stay cool, remember you never want to lose access to your boys... Take it a day at a time... you'll find a happier place down the line.

And of course now...the REAL mongering can begin! :twisted:

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I'm with Livincr, move back in, don't ever give up your Ch*ldren, talk to them and see where they stand on this. Also, retain the best attorney you CAN'T afford. Bro, I feel for you and I wish you the best, remember the K*ds come first!!
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Look at it this way. You could have posted a thread with the title..."Mr. Stiles gets caught by wife phucking hookers in CR... divorce pending! In reality, she probably knew something was going on and "maybe" deceided to travel down the same path so to speak. While this certainly won't be a popular comment I agree with your friend. What goes around more times than not comes around. You're in a shit hole of bad reality. Ask yourself this... If you got caught would you want her to leave? Are you reacting like you would want her to react if you were in her place. Isn't what's good for the goose good for the gander? These are some damn hard questions. I do not envy you in the slightest.

The real issue is the K*ds and that's your number one priority.

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I never cheated on my wife, gave her my checks, cooked, cleaned, ironed etc., and took care of the K*ds even while she went out on her dates. What was my karma that I deserved to be cheated on? The gold for me is in the fact that I never cheated on my wife, even when I knew that she was being unfaithful, not why Karma didn't treat me right. Sh*t happens. If I hadn't given up my b*lls, things probably would have been different.

To this day my girls do not know that their mother cheated on me. What's the point? IMHO telling them would have given me short lived personal satisfaction, but put a life long hurt on their lives.

I wasted several years of my life in anger, and hate. It is not worth it. If you really want to get to your enemies (your ex), kill her/them with kindness. They/she are expecting anger. If a person is getting to you, they are winning. You have the choice not to allow that to happen. If you are thinking a thought that is not serving your highest goal for yourself, recognize that as soon as possible, and change your thoughts immediately. You are only one one second away from being whatever you choose to believe that you are, it can be either positive or negative. Make your positive thoughts your reality.

IMHO karma is a word to make one feel better for the sh*t that they set up (allowed) to happen to them in their lives.

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Steve,
I didn't read anything that way from anyone other than Berketta and what else would you expect from the white knight. The only thing that a FEW other members wrote that was at all similar and MAY have suggested they MIGHT have some agreement along those lines was that they were more or less WITHHOLDING judgment on that matter and recommending against the natural tendency in such situations to assess blame.

The unfortunate fact is that in any failed relationship there is usually enough "blame" to go around to BOTH sides, even yours. That is not to say that one side is often not much more "guilty" than the other, as seems to be the case with your ex. And that doesn't make it Karma.

If this were simply a matter of Mikey's wife cheating on him, I'd say "What's good for the goose is good for the gander". But then if that were all it was, I don't think Mikey would be so upset either. In fact, I think he might actually be relieved since by allowing his wife to deal with his infidelities by seeking one of her own more or less would give himself carte blanche to continue what he has been doing. How sustainable or healthy such an "open marriage" arrangement would be in the long run might be another matter.

Also, if her having an affair has anything to do with her having suspicions or knowing about his own indiscretions in CR, then that is not some cosmic principle such as Karma. It would be just a natural, direct and fairly predictable possible consequence of his actions. Karma suggests, to me at least, equally good or bad things happening to a person in turn on some higher level than some direct physical cause and effect. In other words, if his wife cheated on him while he himself was cheating on her AND despite her not knowing anything about his infidelities.

And even if this IS Karma, then it is Karma in Spades. Where is her becoming pregnant and wanting to bring her bastard Ch*ld into the family coming around from? Where is the Karma in that? And where is the Karma for her boyfriend who was fooling around with a married woman, knocked her up, and might be continuing to have his way with her while she takes the Ch*ld he probably didn't want anyway back to her sap husband (sorry Mikey) so he could foot all the bills and responsibilities of having it while he walks around scott-free?

I'm sorry, I don't buy the whole Karma bullshit thing. If what goes around comes around, why do so many assholes get away with murder, at least in THIS life? If anything ever does catch up with them it is either a direct and predictable cause and effect not cosmic thing (e.g. if you kill someone and leave evidence, someone is probably going to investigate that and come after you) or else pure coincidence (e.g. if you murder someone and then have something equally horrific but seemingly unrelated happen to you, like getting run over by a bus the next day) and either way is probably what they deserve. How does a loving father and husband (even a cheating one, but one who kept his extramarital affairs reasonably discreet) deserve to have to raise the Ch*ld of another man who cheated with his wife?

BTW, here is another question for our legal experts. If Mikey does stay with his wife and she has this Ch*ld, can HE go after the baby's father for Ch*ld support or can she refuse to go along with that and essentially force Mikey to absorb all the financial burdens of raising the Ch*ld as well as the parental ones?


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Mikey you are my friend and I care about you as well as other members in the group. I voted no. The reason I voted no is because If you do not know the exact reason for your wife's infedility you can not blame it on a few trips to CR.

That said.

I wish you all the strength in the world during this emotionally draining time in your marriage. If she is truly serious about leaving and having the Ch*ld I suggest you immediately hire a good female divorce attorney.

Mikey if you never listened before. Please listen to me now.

She must be a female attorney! A hot latin attorney that is as hard as nails.

Trust me I have been there. The female attorney will fight for you tooth and nail. The male attorneys tend to make concessions without much of a fight for your rights in regards to alimony, Ch*ld support, division of property.


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Sorry while i don't know you i voted yes. I appreciate the pics you post but had no idea and would have never guessed you were married with 4 K*ds.I don't want to be negative so i will just say best of luck.


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Mikey,
Remember your thread about all the elaborate excuses you used to make your CR trips? Go and reread my responses there. It's unfortunate but it was inevitable. Likely the only person you were fooling was yourself. Not trying to rub salt in the wound but the whole chapter of your life is coming to its logical conclusion. Just hope your wife/ex isn't a complete bitch and she doesn't go for the jugular. If so, your trip count to CR will come to a grinding halt. As someone who can feel your pain, I just hope it was all worth it.

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Santas Bro wrote:
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What goes around more times than not comes around.


I never cheated on my wife, gave her my checks, cooked, cleaned, ironed etc., and took care of the K*ds even while she went out on her dates. ...


It's a general statement that applies to generally all situations. It does not apply to all situations all the time. Clearly, there are always exceptions. Personally, it is not reflective of past bad behavior. Sometimes... many times... bad things happen to good people.

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Mikey,
Remember your thread about all the elaborate excuses you used to make your CR trips? Go and reread my responses there. It's unfortunate but it was inevitable. Likely the only person you were fooling was yourself. Not trying to rub salt in the wound but the whole chapter of your life is coming to its logical conclusion. Just hope your wife/ex isn't a complete bitch and she doesn't go for the jugular. If so, your trip count to CR will come to a grinding halt. As someone who can feel your pain, I just hope it was all worth it.

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It hard to argue with what you say... in general. I went back to the thread you linked to. While "Mikey" is not the one who got caught there are things he mentions that have brought all of this to a "logical conclusion"... as you say.

This game we play is dangerous for any married guy wanting to maintain the status quo in his own personal casa.

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I don't know how the married guys manage to make so many trips to Costa Rica. I'm single and don't think I could even manage mongering trips if I had a regular girlfriend.

As it is, I keep several local chicas on a loose rope and don't care what they think. Lately they've mostly been Latinas here. They might whine a bit about my travels but strangely seem to respect me saying I'm going on a trip (to Germany, Costa Rica, Asia, etc) without them and they'll see me when I return.

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if karma was real, then why does nothing bad happen to assholes.. this is one of those things were humans try to see things into coincedences that are not there.. :P :P :P :P
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Kickstand wrote:
I don't know how the married guys manage to make so many trips to Costa Rica. I'm single and don't think I could even manage mongering trips if I had a regular girlfriend.

As it is, I keep several local chicas on a loose rope and don't care what they think. Lately they've mostly been Latinas here. They might whine a bit about my travels but strangely seem to respect me saying I'm going on a trip (to Germany, Costa Rica, Asia, etc) without them and they'll see me when I return.


Kickstand,

I agree with your comments and it amazes me that anyone with 4 K*ds can find the time & money to get away for several days every couple of months to CR at all. Im not trying to dog Mickey at all but Im sure his wife had to suspect things were going on in his travels unless she was just not very smart at all ! I sometimes feel guilty about my trips as far as allocating time and resources away from my son. My other K*ds are older and in college and pretty much on their own now but I cannot imagine getting away so much w/ 4 young K*ds.


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after reading that previous thread and the cavalier attitude there certainly can be no surprise. the pride always comes before the fall. sucks to be you right now. hope she doesn't find this site and the pictures.


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Mikey, sorry to hear of your problems and I know you are having a hard time dealing with it. As others have said:

1: Keep a cool head--do not just react, but think each move out thourghly

2: As 50 said, get a FEMALE lawyer and muy pronto, like yesterday!! Again I say "get a FEMALE lawyer" In my 4 marriages, they ALL cost me a lot of money DURING the marrage, but I had a female lawyer all 4 times and the most any one of the 4 divorces cost me was the legal fees, and 2 times the ex even ended up having to pay my legal fees (and I was the guilty party both of those times).

3: Keep the needs of your sons and your relationship with them first and foremost. Personally, I do not know the laws in your state, but I would have stayed in the house and kicked her out. EXs are very good at turning the Ch*ldren against the father when he is not there.

Lastly, as I said, I do not know the laws in your state, but, Where I lived, in most cases, the courts say that no matter who the biological father is, the husband is finanically responsible for ALL Ch*ldren born into the marrage. Very sad situation!!!

Again old buddy, sorry to hear of your problems and I hope it all works out for you.

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