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You Novia wannabes:



It was only $140k ( and for not one dollar more she would have moved in ). I'm confused: I thought a novia was a relationship that did not require faithfulness. Del Rey love is nothing more than multiple dates with one girl in one trip. Not the same thing. If spending a night or two with her is the only requirement for calling her a novia then I have had a whole bunch of those. Unless I misunderstood completely what Pacoloco is saying he was searching for that elusive concept of love with the complete freedom to do as you wish. I could see that happening if you were willing to pay. That is you could buy her loyalty but I would think the price would be catastrophic. Me I will just stick to the Del Rey love thing. Plenty of good memories and no long-term debts.

Lee

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Paco: ..Please listen to VB.... stay the way you are... It's is your truthful post that made me realize that the Novia Scene was a bunch of bull. There is no Free P4P in SJ nor anywhere else. You are so right about the two day limit. i just returned from SJ and I had the Spratt in tow half the time. The first half was full of late night drunks- Muy MP'S - Hell I even pick-up a little spinner that spun me around like a top.. all for half the cost of the Spratt!!!

But like you, I wanted something more, something more then a quick bang in a MP or the little clock watcher that the spinner turned out to be.

So I fell to my emotions and I call the Spratt.

It started out great and quickly soured by day three.( Pay Day)... :roll::roll:

When I paid her she informed me that she can make $10,000 per month and my measly $500 bucks was nothing....

What you need is the “Vegas Bob Cure"

If it does not work on the first try...try and try again...

As far as Novias go PM me and you can have the Spratt’s phone number...

PS: She on the rag and is in need of some WU... TODAY... :lol::lol:

Iggy...

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My dos colones:

Why would anyone want a novia, unless they are ready for a monagomous relationship? No matter where they are from in the world, they are all still women. An overwhelming majority of their thought process is based upon judgment (feelings), and not data (fact). It doesn't matter if they are thinkg a truth, but how they are feeling is their truth. Right, or wrong, it better be your feeling also. IMHO most men do not operate on feelings, we are much more data driven. As a Joe Friday, TV detective from the fifty's used to say, "Just give me the facts ma'am"!

The longer that you are with them, the more they demand that you change. Oh yeah, they love the bad boy in the beginning, but once you have been with a woman for a long time (and become hers), the list of their demands for your change grows. Do they have to change, well of course, but it is usually not for the positive. Do they cook for you anymore? Will they have spontaneous sex with you anymore? Their list of taking care of you shrinks daily. I have never understood why women didn't just pick men that they liked in the beginning, without having to try and force change.

Here is where I will probably be flamed though. What is it about men that think it is O.K. for us to screw other women while we are in a "relationship", but the woman must remain celibate (whether for money or not)? If I had a novia, girlfriend, woman and she was going to have sex, it would seem better to me that at least she was getting paid for sex, and not because of a mental connection with the other man. IMHO it is no more right for a man to have sex (whether paying for it or not), than it is for a woman to have sex (whether being paid or not) while in a relationship where you would call the other person your novia, and she her novio (is that a word?). Because of the nature of most woman, excluding a very rare few, their feelings do not allow a non-monagomous relationship where sex is involved. IMJ, if you enter into a long term "relationhsip" with a vast majority of women in the world, and wish to continue screwing other women, your life is going to be like a train wreck waiting to happen. I was unhappily married for twenty years. I stuck it out for the good of my Ch*ldren. Even when she was cheating on me, I never did cheat on her. Am I stupid, maybe, but I do feel good about myself for the choices I made. Long after the elation of the 15 seconds of ejaculation had expired, the bitterness of my actions, within myself, would have remained.

As the wise one VB stated:


I am not trying to pass judgment on anyone. IMHO, unless your are ready for a monagomous relationship with a vast majority of women in the world, the only word that should be spoken about women is NEXT!!!!

Health & happiness to all.

Santas Bro

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Paco - Its like when you wanted to wade out of the kiddie pool. Walk over to the deep end and jump in.

What is the worst that can happen (OK I know ther can be a lot of what ifs ...)

You go for two days for a price agreed to, and with your negotiating you cover all bases. Additionally explain if things turn south she is on the next truck full of chickens back to town.

Then go and have fun, and let her go when you are done

Catch and release ,...

Santas Bro I sure have to agree with everything you said but I am a flawed creature myself .

Paco, Maybe if you get real burned out on the hooker seen a nice regular tica way outside the gulch would be a breath of fresh air but it takes time & effort to cultivate this. Think how many potential new little DelRey darlings you might miss in the prossess especially if you have limited time. At least if you find one far enough away from the gulch it will be harder for her to track you & what you do downtown.

Things just get to be a double edged sword sometimes. I think we all like it when we find unaffected non hardcore ones that we really hit it off well. You can tell which ones truly have a natural liking for you which helps get the most out of it all like passionate kissing & making out as if we were back in high school if that’s your thing. It is nice to forget about the mechanical part for a moment or two & lost in the flow of things. The problem then comes when they had a great time & "are looking for you" then you find yourself wanting to sample others. You hate to make soft ones harder by them seeing you leave with others but such is life & we are there for our time along with being the payer.

You can't blame the good ones for trying to latch on to a guy they like & dominate his time. They know how you are & simply rather be with fewer men that they know will be good with them but they don't seem to want to do it for less $$ than the first time they had with you.

I would think if I lived there I would want to have a decent presentable woman I know very well to show up at parties & functions that would not embarrass me at least around the non-mongering crowd. It generally shows when you bring along a hooker especially if she starts tonguing other men there down to there toenails .

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Wow! I don't know how I missed this thread. But since I was the one who (originally) invited Pacoloco to la playa for a couple days, (with his novia or favorita), I feel that I should probably respond.

First of all, everyone ask yourself this question. In your own mind, what is he definition of a "novia"? IMO, I always thought the word "novia" meant "girlfriend". And when I'm in CR, I enjoy the feeling of having a GFE with the chicas, even if it's only for an hour. After all, CR is FANTASYLAND to me. And if I want the fantasy of having some hot looking 22 year old (porn-star wannabe) rock my world for a couple hours, or a couple days, who gives a sh*t what I call her.

Some guys like to call their special girl a "novia", or a "favorita", or "miss right for now", etc..... But, in general, does it really matter what someone prefers to call the chica that they are currently spending time with? And when I say "spending time with", that could be anywhere from 30 minutes to an entire weekend, or even multiple weekends. Personally, every chica that I'm with, I consider my novia, at least during that moment in time. The only difference, is that some chica's I consider my novia for 60 minutes, and some for the weekend. When I'm at ZB, and Pamela is sucking and phucking my brains out, I consider her my novia for the entire 12 minutes I'm with her!!!!

I take 9 or 10 trips to CR every year, and most of my trips are either 4 or 5 nights. Due to business obligations, I always fly over to Flamingo Beach for a couple nights. And since Flamingo is not considered a top "mongering" destination, I always try to bring a chica with me for the weekend (from SJO).

Why, you ask? That's simple. Because I enjoy the companionship of a beautiful young latina when I'm driving around the countryside, or when I'm hanging out at the poolside bar, or when I'm going to a restaurant for dinner, or when I'm in a boat fishing, or when I'm in the shower, and especially when it's time to hit the sack at night. If I'm driving around the countryside, and I suddenly get the urge, I can pull off into some desserted area, and have a great session. Or if I'm in the pool, and "junior" decides that he's ready for some play, it's a done deal. And, what I've found, is that the more time you spend with the chica, the sexo seems to get better and better.

Am I paying for it? Hell yes I'm paying for it, especially if it's "free sex". VB hit the nail on the head when he said "free sex is the most expensive sex".

Can you have a "novia", and still play around with other chicas? Why not? As long as you're up front with your "novia" from the beginning. Just like GR mentioned. There's a way to do it, without having to "sneak around". IMHO, anything is possible, as long as you don't pull any punches with your "novia". These chica's may be selling themselves for money, but they're still human beings, with emotions. You are the boss, and don't forget that. Explain to her exactly what your intentions are. If she's ok with that, great! If not, then give her a kiss good-bye and go on. But I don't think there's any reason to lie to them, or put yourself in a position where you need to "sneak around".

When I was in CR a couple weeks ago (Superbowl weekend), I spent the weekend at the beach with a novia, but I was still able to spend some time with 3 other chica's throughout that weekend. How is this possible? Well, not difficult at all:

Arrived on Wednesday evening, checked into the SL, and called a favorita from one of my prior trips. She met me at the SL, and we enjoyed a couple hours together, allowing me to get rid of the 'nuisance' nut. After kissing her good-bye, I headed over to the BM. Had quite a few drinks, and interviewed a lot of chica's (mostly Colombiana's), but didn't want
to pull the trigger on any one of the overpriced Colombiana's. Finally, around 4 a.m., a cute little Nica spinner came and sat down next to me, and within 30 minutes, we were bumping uglies in my room at the SL. Afterwards, we both fell asleep, but awoke around 9 a.m. to another great session. Afterwards, we showered and I paid her and kissed her good-bye.

During the day (Thursday), my wingman and I took a taxi to the White House in Santa Ana De Escazu for some t-shirts. When we got back to the gulch, I called another former novia, whom I hadn't seen in over a year, and I asked her if she wanted to come by the SL for a drink. A couple hours later, she came by, and we started chatting. She looked as good as
I remembered, so we went back to my room, to see if I could remember how she was en la cama. It wasn't long before I remembered her special "muscle control". After a great session, we had a couple more drinks. We ended up going to dinner at BAKEA (sp) with VB, Pidd, LVSteve and a few others. After dinner, I asked my chica if she was interested in going to the beach for the weekend. She was very excited.

Long story short, we spent a couple days and nights at the beach, and had a great time. When we returned to SJO on Superbowl Sunday around mid-day, we said our good-bye's and I headed back to the SL. Checked in, showered, and headed over to the BM, looking for some company for the big game. Picked up a cute little Tica, with store-bought DD's,
and had a great time watching the game with her. Afterwards, my wingmen and I, along with our novia's, went over to the KL for some dancing, then back to the SL for a TLN with my new Tica novia. Another great night, complimented with a great morning session. Once again, showered, paid her, and kissed her good-bye.

What's this all mean? I'm not sure, except that (in my mind) I think that finding a "novia" is not that difficult, as long as you keep things in perspective. And you've got to realize, that no matter what you call her, or how you feel about her, or how much time you spend with her, that ultimately it's ALWAYS about the money.

So call them whatever you'd like, and accept the fact that whatever term of endearment you choose, IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE MONEY. Just have a good time, and enjoy the moment. Because, when all the smoke clears, you'll realize that it was all just a fantasy.........

Mucho Gusto

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You ALWAYS have an option ....... "NEXT" !!!

Another important point - even if you find a novia outside the gulch... meaning she is not a prostitute... it seems culturally acceptable to take chicas on the side in Latin America. Its very hard for me to get used to, as I have an innate guilt mechanism due to my American upbringing.

For example, my novia has NO PROBLEMS with me banging chicas in strip bars and massage parlors. She even sort of endorses it, especially if they are good looking. However, if I bring a chica home without her knowing, she says that she would VERY MAD. However, if the girl is good looking and she can join-in on the fun, then it is okay.

At times, I need to take my entire value system and turn it upside-down, for things to make sense in a relationship down here.

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THIS POST PRETTY MUCH SUMS UP MY FEELINGS TO A TEE, One exception though,

Occassionaly feel a little guilt as my novia prefers dont tell, I wont ask. Kind of prefer it that way as well

I could say I have had 2 Novias now during my visits to CR.

I for one don't seem to have the energy to run multiple girls during a trip ALLTHOUGH I do have at least one other.
This trip it was Mia, ( Stephanie ex ZB. )

For the record, I would be willing to settle down with that special novia.
I have spent too much of my life alone, It has had it's good points
but a lot of bad moments as well. Nuff said on that.

Anyhow, indeed the novia relationship as MG describes is easy enough to find. Interview and try her out, If it works out then keep going.
As mentioned, No sexo is free, Get used to it, pay now or buy her a
new Ford F350 Truck right ? ( ----------------- Insert your car Here )

I would say I had the same sort of relationship with my latest Chica at Flamingo.
I had a good time, a couple minor issues but over all the best GFE / Novia ( whatever you want to call it.) times so far in my times in CR.

I think there is a difference as well if you are living in CR.

I use Vegas Bob as a keystone with these conversations.
and I have only spoke shortly with VB, pero based on his posts......

I am not really at ease when I am in San Jose.
I am on vacation and therefore in an altered state in several directions right ?

I hope members like VB have found the happy medium of living in CR
and dealing with Ticas, Nicas, Colombians and relationships overall.

Just a few thoughts from me.

Fiedler.

pfffft if you find THAT novia ask her for me if she has any sisters

Niko

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OK...I have to chime in here since I seem to have a different outlook and experience than most here. I think more guys on this board than are willing to admit it are interested in a deeper, more emotional connection with a woman than you will get in the P4P scene. I personally believe one can find balance between committed long term relationships with a woman, and temporary "just for sex or fantasy" type of liassons.

While I was one of the founders of this board/site and long timer in San Jose (3+ yrs)...I for one got tired of the P$P scene...the "see how much sex I can get for the least money" kind of attitude. I have hobbied on and off again over the years...usually between relationships or post divorce. It sure beat paying psychiatrists. But for me...as I think others here have experienced...it gets a little hollow after a while. Living as a 100% P4P person to me turns into one big Porn flick after awhile. It becomes like jacking off...with no real affection or connection with the woman. And yes...after a while you learn all their games and behind the scenes realities of the monger world...and it just kind of loses its appeal. It becomes like "shooting fish in a barrel" versus a manly, risky hunt in the wild for the big game you really want. I think mongering is best in true balance to a real long term "Novia".

And yes, Novia in latin america has more significance than most of you guys give it. Novias are a COMMITTMENT. While most assume monogamy, they at least expect regular attention and the pursuit of domestic tranquility together. These Latinas in the natural are built for domesticity and motherhood. That is in their culture and their blood. The ones you guys are dealing with in Delrey and MPs are NOT the norm of Latin women. Sure, they are still hot and all...or have learned to be great actresses. But you will know the difference when you DATE a regular hot Latina. And at least in my experience, once you have tasted that...you will never be satisfied completely by P4P.

Yes, some here argue that committed relationships, marriage, et al costs more than P4P hourly arrangements per sexual act. And that may be true in many cases...but not all. To me, really knowing a woman, what makes them tick...and being able to MAKE them tick...is the ultimate experience for a man. Many can cause another person to give an orgasm....but not very many can claim that they really know that person will be there thru thick and thin...when/if the money runs out...when/if your health starts failing. If you have a partner who will see you through all that...THATS when you have Love...and its not neccessarily devoid of passion and sex either. Yes, I am describing a rare thing...a rare relationship. But...I have had it a couple times in my life...I currently have it...and I do not miss my more carefree, independent days running around between the Delrey and various MPs. I still do it from time to time with buds or for diversion...but I can take or leave it. Its like going by a bowling alley. I used to bowl alot. TOo much to where I tired of it. Now...its fun to bowl 1-2 times a year...but I have much better things to do now.

Hope this helps someone feel OK about wanting more...

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Well there you go Paco, You have honest opions from alot of long time members, M-men and part time m-men and us others. You have to look inside yourself. I think VB was right that you allready know the answer. You just have to find it inside of you. I can tell you that as you change and grow what you want changes also. That means what is right for you today might not be right tommorow. Such a Delima. I would tell you to pray but this is a funny topic to pray on. So, meditaite, Do the Yoga thing. figure out what you want today. If you want a wife and K*D. Do you want to continue to live in the states? To your own self be true. If you do that then you will feel what Tman talked about. Today he is where he wants to be doing what he wants to do. Today he is happy. Tommorow who knows? We don't even have the whole day promised to us. Only the moment. If in the moment you know what you want and are doing it. Then you have life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Today.

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WELL SAID, Redman. The answer to many of our problems is within us all the time...we just have to find it.
Niko

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YO Novia searchers:

Several year ago old Circus was on the prowl for a Novia. I had kept it a secret except for divulging it to several buds, Pidd, Tman and Don Papi. Who would have thought that those hombres would have sent me a brochure and free pass to the Liberia livestock auction.

I suppose it's the thought that counts......yea right! Sometimes it's pitiful being me.

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