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In one of my trips, I saw this woman she was redhead and had a descent body. It was at one of the lower class MP. Anyway, she performed well in bed, even with fake moaning and stuff and even encouraged two shots for the hour. In my later trips, I asked one of the girls where was she. She said she didn't know and then she relented and told me. She told me that this girl was in the hospital for drug abuse, she did cocaine and marajuana. Then she said it was crazy. Anyway, I felt sad. She was always very happy at the place, but maybe it was the drugs. She could have easily worked at NF, Idem or ZB.

I don't care WHY this post was sprung from the archive, I'm just glad THAT it was, if only for the terrific writing and sage advice of El Ciego, Ryu and Tman. This message or these messages haven't been brought up lately and every so often, can stand repeating.

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What did those bad Americans say to Maria? I'm curious.

What made her change? Did she gain weight? Wear more revealing clothes? Or her being less timid about the whole process?

This is a good read for newbies I feel. I was always able to find new inexperienced Latinas which were sweet & generally uneffected at that point. They don't stay this way for very long at all. On repeat trips it was NEVER the same with them even a few months later. Don't expect them to stay unaffected by this type of setting & NEVER get your mind set that you think you can save them.

The forces are stronger that you will become a victim of their bad choices in life if you try. It is what it is & we all make our choices in life that have their own set of consequences.

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You got personal with the broad, that's your mistake man. My mistake, once too. Girls like her lie to themselves in which they ultimately surrender to the life.

I agree about never tying to save them. But in Peru at least I have found a repeat occasionally about as good as the first time, like the amazing and beautiful Ariela from Eclipse club in Lima, nothing from her ever except a sense of warmth, happiness and friendly peruvian sweetness (and in the cama uninhibited wildness), who sadly for me wasn't around this last time. Equally good repeats (3 separate visits overall) was the case also with one other Lima favorite I since lost touch with a couple of years ago. More recently it was remarkable to experience a WG (over 1 year in the biz) at her incall in Lima a couple of weeks ago (selected based on good ratings at PeruTops), who had never met me, but after warming up to me in no more than a few minutes, turned our encounter into something like one between two long-lost true enamorados.

I don't know but suspect among many factors the LAm wg's that are able to maintain good health habits, avoid excessive smoking, drinking, drug use and get enough sleep, and also are seeing relatively few customers generally, and do not suffer any sort of majorly abusive continuing relationship in their life, are the ones who are best able to keep themselves more or less unaffected over time....but not surprisingly given their circumstances, whatever the particular city or country it seems, far and away these ones are more the exception than the rule.

I would though like a chance hopefully next year to finally personally research the thermas and Helpe girls in Rio Brasil and see where they fit in in all of this, based on reports from there it seems with the overall sexual openness of that country's culture there many more of the wg's really do enjoy what they do and seem to stay passionate and unaffected at least in certain ways, over time.

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Willy, I'm sorry you made a mistake, but that should just make you more cautious with the chicas, not bitter. One human being having some compassion for another human being, which is all we're really talking about here, is never a mistake. Going beyond that and feeling some personal responsibilty for that other person's mistake, when its not really there, or even feeling a need to be her personal savior is another story completely, but again I didn't hear anyone really talking about that either. quite the contrary.

As for Maria, I don't think she was really lying to either Traylor or herself when he first met her. What she does now is probably another story. I'm sure when Traylor first met her she really did think she was just doing something temporarily to help get herself through a tough patch. The thing is that plans change. Like so many other semi-pros trying prostitution for the first time, she was seduced by the easy money and found herself in a trap that is not as easy to walk away from as it is to walk into. And after not much time at all, and more and more the longer they stay in the business, it changes them in so many more ways that make it even harder for them to leave.

I'm glad that this thread was resurrected as it is also a reminder of the type of intelligent, compassionate and caring gentlemen we have on this board. This is a thread I don't think you would ever see on some of the other boards I've been on.

In closing let me add that I completely agree with what Green Giant posted which I think really summed up my opinions on this subject as well and I'll leave it at that.

Many have said, mongering is a drug. It's also a good idea to examine how much of being in this hobby affects us "in so many ways, which makes it harder for us to stop."

I don't see the original poster of this thread as a "captain save a ho", at least that's what they call it on the TJ boards. I think he's jsut feels sad to see a friend, could be any person in the states even, in a bad situation. When we as mongers are unable to feel this ourselves is when we begin to see these women as "C*m buckets" as the Thai and Phillipines boards call them.

so as we age we change.. some go down hill faster.. some slower.. who cares?? do you reminscent how old the guy does your car wash looks after 5 years. no. that's life...

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No, Cariden, but I never spent a night with the guy at the car wash listening to all his hopes and dreams, or seen him when he bubbled over with enthusiasm over all the things he hoped to accomplish once he put his car washing days behind him. This isn't just about someone growing physically older. You're right that is something that all of us do. This is about someone we've known well that had been full of youth and energy and ambition falling into the rut of a career that has sapped them of any of that. And that is tragic whenever it occurs. The rest of us may not have known Maria like Traylor knew her, but we have all known chicas like her. And we've all seen these women evolve as they've spent more and more time in this profession. IT is a line of work that chews them up, ruins their outlook on life, men and relationships, and spits them out once their youth and beauty has faded as over-the-hill middle-aged women with little to show for all that time spent on their backs and fewer still prospects left for the rest of their lives (other than to push their daughters into the same dead-end track that they went down in order to support them).

Cariden you're not just confused but clueless.

And to add to BrotherPL's post, he's also more than a bit mean-spirited.

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byte me, i'm just saying what we all do.. are you guys in contact with your old girlfriends how are they doing?? don't know don't care....

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Really I see this same situation about Maria in the USA all the time ! They don't P4P but enjoy the trashed out drug life style & later the pity parties they create. It is just sad for a sane person to watch an attractive young healthy person with so much potential throw their life in the sewer.

So many of these people talk about their dreams & aspirations but the reality is in life most people do not want to put forth the effort to achieve them. They are a victim of their own stupity & laziness. I feel for them & I don't but I will not let them pull me into their hole....well accept for an hour or two anyway ...

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sorry i am having a bad one, and i let it slip into this but i think of it as false empathy.. yes you feel bad for them for a second but they brought it on to themselves and even if you cared you could not have stopped them. i.e. had a beautiful gf in the states she was an alcoholic, finally had her convinced to go to rehab, her mom who wanted her in rehab just for a second wavered, gf never went, don't know or really care, what happened after i finally pulled myself out. Not being mean, but if i saw her panhandling i don't think i would care for more than 5 seconds.. not cold just way i believe people are... yes i give to charity and stuff but that almost is to make me feel good??!!???

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