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Yo Pro.

Can you be MORE or LESS SPECIFIC about your Jaco feelings
VB could use your promos for the super condo

Cyg

Huh?

They can take Jaco and what they want with it. Beatle Bar sucks the big one now!!!! Nothing but CIEN, and FALSE ADVERTISING all over the place. Once those tops come off...

How many gringas with butterfly nets come more than once a year? My guess is less than 1%. Myself, 5 or 6 times a year. This week I met CRT member who made 17 trips in the past year. Most guys I've talked to come to CR 2 or more times each year. Mongers are a bigger part of the total tourist # and $ spent than people want to admit. I also believe MOST of the eco tourists are well aware that they are in a country where the sex trade is legal. They don't seem to care too much because it's just a one-time stay for them anyway. Uproars over prostitutes are always started by the Whitebread types. People just need to do a little research before hauling thier K*ds into a place like Jaco. Jaco is simply not for K*ds! There are a slew of other places in CR where families can surf, fish, shop & go on tours. These folks should find those spots and go there. Best Western should do the same. I honestly think it's the drugs & thugs that keep alot of tourists away right now. Fix this and business will be better for everyone. Sure, You will occasionally be propositioned on the street by a chica, but you will be offered drugs on damn near every corner! Wonder if Best Western & thier alliance intend to do something about this?

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Shawn,
I wasn't saying that the sex-tourist market wasn't significant. You might even be right in believing that it is as important as it is. It would be interesting if someone did a statistical study to settle that question once and for all, though I doubt we will see anything like that any time soon. ICT or immigration controls that raw data and even if they wanted to analyze the numbers I doubt they would want to reveal how imprtant sex tourism really is to the CR economy.

Sure a core group of guys make repeat visits to CR each year while most regular tourists don't. But even among mongers most visit only once or maybe twice a year, if they even come back at all. Maybe you don't notice all the newbies because you focus more on all the old friends you hadn't seen in a few trips. You also see more mongers because you hang out primarily in the few small places where mongers congregate. Hardly a representative view of things.

Look at this board's membership as a possible representation of the demographics of mongerdom. Over 8000 members, but of those how many are active. Some just lurk. But many visit, stick around until they make their one trip and then most never come back. And some guys here haven't even been down once and when they do might return but not every month like a few of you horndogs. How many guys have the time or money to take that many international vacations each year, or can make that many believable excuses to their wives for repeated trips?

Another example. A lot of guys like to play spot the monger when they fly. And usually there are at least several who are at least suspects on each flight. However, even you must admit they're still a minority of each flight. So there goes your theory.

Let's look at it one final way. Say you have 5000 guys who average a trip every month. That would mean that at any given time about a 1000 of the guys hanging around the gulch are the type that are there every month. And most guys who come to CR visit the HDR/BM at some point on nearly every night they're there. Of course, a few are out touring the country, or visiting other venues, but this is a rough analysis. That would mean that most of the guys in the BM at given time each night are the hard core regulars, which we know is not true since there are also a lot of newbies there. So I think that 5000 estimate may be a little high. You may argue it is a little low. But lets accept that for our analysis. That component amounts to 60,000 visits per year. But I said most guys are not hard core regulars. What would you estimate for that group that visits only once or maybe twice per year? 100,000? 200,000? Even if you guess 300,000, that leaves at least 640,000 other "normal" visitors who maybe visit only once a year or maybe some of whom also repeat. Bottom line, IMHO sex-tourism is a significant but not most important sector of tourism. Add to that fact all the political/PR fallout that comes with the sex trade, plus the fallout on your more important torusim sectors and you get a sector that many people would rather see go away or at least go deeper underground.

Just so I don't don't seem totally argumentative, I really like your other comments about Jaco. In a sense, you already have the Zona Roja that I suggested in Jaco, only it encompasses the whole strip. If the whitebread tourists don't like it they can already go plenty of other places in CR. I'll definitely buy that. Unfortunately will the other businesses and merchants in Jaco buy that or would they, like everyone else in CR, rather go after the more wholesome dollars associated with the regular tourists. Those markets don't come with as much of the negative side effects like drugs and crime.

Jaco has been growing slowly but surely. By that I mean it takes a long time for anything to get built and open there. One problem the merchants have in Jaco , just like in Guanacaste, is that everyone is selling the same things. Even the eco-tourists would agree with that. These little dump motels & Best Western need to learn to co-exist with the mongers & putas. I doubt Jaco would turn into this great family vacation spot if we all disappeared. Lets keep in mind that the place is ugly as shit. The only good looking thing about Jaco besides the chicas is the sunset. Chicas in SJ are already hearing about the new project in Jaco. This spot will be attracting alot more weekend business than the town has been seeing in the past...our kind of business. I also feel that we spend more money than the avg eco-tourist everywhere in the country. Most of the hotels they stay in & tours they go on are relatively inexpensive. Some of them would be content spending thier entire vacation in a tent. By the looks & smell of them , many do. That 1 night in the Prez at the beginning or end of thier stay is splurging. Sure, they support a few of the small businesses & cheaper hotels, but those places make money from mongers too. I've gone on tours and seen plenty of our kind doing a day trip right along side the backpackers. Besides the $ we spend in local businesses, OUR money gets stretched alot further. Every time one of us spends a c-note on a chica we are actually helping many other people. The chica shares with her mother , Babi*s , siblings, grandparents, lazy boyfriend/husband and anyone else close to her. I don't think any of these people see much bread from the Whitebreads.

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So, if I try to get a chica into the Best Western Jaco, there's no way to do it?
Been quite a while since I've been down there and never had a problem before. Will a $10.00 to the gaurd get her in?

I assume this relates to short term P4P ? Beetle bar or other ?

If I check in to a hotel with my " companion " for five days,
I will assume I won't get the same hassle ?

Although the optics would look odd,
( 25 year old tica vs my 46 year gordo ass) who is to say we are not engaged or she came with me from Canada ?

I have always wondered about this when I hear this type of report.

Fiedler.

Wel this will be my first post if it goes through. First I wish to give a grande gracis to all CRT posters. Your guidence and experiences have been a joy to read.
Last week I experienced my first mongoring trip to SJ. Mucho feliz. Muy mucho.
About Jaco. Been there,seen it. It's O K. I have a Tica that I have been seeing for the last couple years. She dresses like a whore because that is the way I want her and she looks the part. I am wandering if she would be stopped at the door of the Best Western if I brought her in. I was introduced to her by a Policia Chief and she came with honorable recommendations. I doubt seriously if she ever turned a trick.
I guess my point is How do they know Who to turn away?
I believe they are making more problems for themselve trying to stop the sex trade then they have now. They should leave well enough alone. IMHO. The Waterman

I know it's hard to think but I belive in 20 years Costa Rica will be like Purto Rico.

Most of us that have traveled to Costa Rica for the last six years have seen changes good and bad. From the hotel owner that wants the biz, to the purpetural tourist that is trying to run away from the bad USA, to the investor that has money signs in their eyes.

Then comes the TV cameras from the U.S. news companys showing mongers praying on the innocent Costa Ricans. This puts the international pressure for CR to comply with the values of the U.S.

As I stated in previous posts, when the gringos come to stay and change Costa Rica to their liking it will not be Costa Rica. This is already happening all up and down the coast of CR. The sad day will be the day when the true meaning of Pura Vida is lost and CR starts to look like another florida.

This is why the country needs to start curbing the growth, implement stiffer laws to prevent purpetural tourism, regulate the building of large developments. Personally I would rather have more towns like the old Jacco because that was what real Costa Rica is all about!

Yes the secreat is out, the cat is out of the bag and in the feature the Putas might be chased out of estabilshments because they are just trying to make a living! You know it might offend the Gringas!

Yes. It might offend some of our gringa mothers, sisters, daughters, and granddaughters

- B

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