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Which of the guys in the article do you relate to the most?
Doug Thomas, 45, has spent more of his adult life securing his financial footing than he has searching for a wife 21%  21%  [ 12 ]
Jeff Enos, 40, having lived through his parents’ divorce, he wants to avoid a similar fate 5%  5%  [ 3 ]
Joe Callender, 47, never married because of issues with his own infidelity 14%  14%  [ 8 ]
Tom Ryan, 54, learned how to be alone and doesnt want to risk his freedom 59%  59%  [ 33 ]
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:49 am 
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Brendanowens,

You sure received some great advice from all of the above members :wink: !

I believe in marriage as long as you can make it work & it is between the right people. Very risky business these days but theoretically possible. I know so few that really worked out so I don't want to be negative but just reporting the facts.

I believe the divorce rate is so high because most people make such rash stupid, uninformed decisions about it all. Plus so many people seem to have some major issues anymore or even worse true mental problems. Also people just plain wake up some morning & seem changed??? I have heard many women just say I am bored & I need to grow???? To much pulling at people in the States too me unless both people stay strong & can see thru the BS & stay on course being truly good to each other.

I started mongering at your age also & look at Jmac he may set the record 8) ! I do not believe your age is too early unless all you do is monger. I just used it for my advantage & didn't get totally hung up on it. I believe options are always to ones advantage if used wisely. Some girls I dated believe it or not they told me they were "VIRGINS". Maybe it was true because I wasn't getting any so I would go to a place to get layed by a P4P gal because I couldn't take it any longer.

One Baptist gringa I was seeing was super hot! Great body but would not phuck for the above reason. I finally convinced her that she could still be a ''vaginal virgin" because we could do other things :twisted: . This she agreed too so at least I could get rid of my blue ball :? ..She would swallow & would get off with it in the A like crazy?? Man go figure that one. Women???? I never did pop the cherry & left that for her husband she married. Now she is over 200 pounds, it makes me sick to see a body like hers totally destroyed :evil: !

I believe D2864 has a great point that you need to really know yourself & be totally honest with yourself. If you decide to marry just be logical about it which most people are not. So many have hot sex & wow she has a great body etc & the next thing you know they fly to Las Vegas. Solid foundation for sure right :lol: :lol: :lol: ?

For me I like both wild women & women that I feel are truly good women that don't get around much & truly like you for you. They both have there place & balance each other out. Some guys can deal with this & others can't. Again you have to know your self.

I have a brother that has been married 5 times & is in his 40s. The first gal he poked after a divorce he became all mushy with the I love yous & ran off to get married over & over. Later I watched him with his Bible out trying to figure out how to deal with it all. Speaks for it self too me but that is the way he dealt with it. You really better have a real strategic long range plan plus do extensive homework on the one you think is right for you in my opinion to make it last. Many people think this is not romantic & love should be less calculated. Better you are in love for sure but somehow find the strength to be rational & logical or it will come back to bite you big time!

Marriage is 1000x better than mongering I believe if it is with the right two people that lovingly give & take evenly. Also many guys coexist with both just fine but like everything it is not always easy or one better than the other. It is simply what works for you & many times you simply don’t know until you are there. I still personally don't see the need for marriage unless you want Ch*ldren & anyone that I know of that is of sound mind(don't look at me :lol: ) has always said having Ch*ldren was the best thing the ever did in their life. Even if the kidds turned out bad :?

One thing I have found is if you have had a life & become accustumed to being around a lot of Pretty women it is hard to ever turn this off totally. You can learn to control it but I will be surprised if you can totally turn it off. I have some really class act friends that have trouble with this & they will even tell me I can't believe how shallow I am but I just view these hot women like sports cars. So many makes & models & they are all so beautiful I want to touch them all :oops: ? When they look back at their own garage & see that the one he loves has 4 flats & a big ass it gets even harder to say NO!

Always remember you have options & better in my book to never marry if you can not find the right one & be happy than to force youself to marry for marriage sake & be unhappy.

I don't mean to make fun of churchy people but looking at some of them just keeps me Zippin along just like I am :roll: .

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Marriage is a great institution, but I'm not ready for an institution. :)

B.O.,
Of course your family expects you to get married, have 2.2 K*ds, blah, blah, as D2864 said that's "normal" and part of being a good American- how could you possibly be happy (or fit into suburbia with your mortgage & 2 car payments) otherwise? And the older you get the more pressure they (along with other older, married folks) will put on you. And hey, what a surprise you pick up an anti-marriage "vibe" from this crowd. On the other hand there is much wisdom to be had from some of these gentlemen- if you can get their minds off pu*sy for a few minutes. :D

Look you could get married, maybe several times and still end up alone, fear of lonlieness is a seriously insecure reason to get married, or in a relationship.
But if you do find a good, unselfish woman that will put up with you it might be foolish and regrettable one day to let her get away!

Buena Suerta whatever you do young man. :wink:

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Brendon we never stop growing up.

You have to know yourself. What do you want? Anything you do for others will not make you happy. Here are some exception's. Your K*ds, Your duty. Knowing what the right thing to do is and doing it has its own rewards.

1/2 the world gets married from arranged marriages. Your dad say's see her! That is your wife. 1/2 the world does it that way. Is there love? Does anybody even ask that question? So have the cultures in this world say if you want trouble in marriage. Then marry someone you love. Muslims, Indians and Chinese.

Zippy made some good points about crossing certian lines. And that girl was a virgin on her wedding night. And that was important to her. And you could tell that Zip respected that. Tman shared his life experinces with you. D2864 made points about K*ds that I totally agree with. And many others on this thread also.

You are young. I can tell you that you can become tired of having to keep your money in a safe because the person sleeping with you will steal it. But that is how you feel also when your wife has your credit card. And you are not happy in your marriage.

So! What is the answer? You will have to find it in yourself. And it will be your answer for you. Just remember it might not be someone else's answer. Live and let live. Is a good way to approch that idea.

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Redman69,

You know this is why I like this board we can talk open about funny situations that have happened in our lives & not hurt anyone. If I told this to anyone where I live it would get back too her is my guess so we just never tell anyone. Here in cyberspace I could be talking about 2 billion different women so no harm done & no foul.

Something I might add that you made me think of with that situation with the Baptist Virgin are most guys would have given their right nut to pop her cherry & believe me I wanted too as I had her panties off enough times :twisted: . Most guys I knew I believe would have actually taken the bait & signed on. So many guys wanted her. But I saw how big her mom was & this scared the hell out of me. I could not imagine this 21 year old athletic beauty with her playboy body looking like her mom but a little parrot on my shoulder or a little red guy with a pitch fork kept telling me to "LOOKOUT"!! :shock: .

I had an underlying suspicion that this girl was a real bitch if things did not go "her way" & since her cherry meant a lot to her I didn't want to go where no other man had gone before (The Tunnel of Love). Another thought of mine was she was using this as a means to force me to marry her then I could have it all. Thank God I saw some little warning signs & I faded out of this relationship. This was not hard for me because I was in demand & had other options. I also guessed right she tried to destroy my life where ever she could once I would not play her game the way she wanted. It would have been worse if I would have taken her Vaginal Virginity away I am sure.

Live & learn but I am glad I passed & seeing her now with her husband & 4 kidds in tow I believe it was wiser I had my fun with out all the bulk & problems her husband has now. Maybe he is happy with her size & control but I can tell you it would not be for me. Again better to know yourself & be able to read people well & project this into the future the best you can.

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Hi Guys,
Your insight has been very helpful, and I greatly appreciate you sharing your experiences with me. I wish that the answer lied in a text book or google. I really don't know what I want, and I wish I could make up my mind. One of the craziest things I've thought of also, perhaps I may be insane, but was to live life do everything I wanted to do and at 28, just end it. Now I'm not depressed, I just feel like there's not much to look forward to. Now that I've seen what goes in the DR and knowing that I could do any of these chicks, it has made me al ittle numb to dating. I constantly think, "ok, i'm going to take her out, hmm..that's 40 dollars dinner, 20 bucks gas, etc., wait for that I could get a good 2 hours in CR". I 've gotten that kind of mentality now. Perhaps I have yet to meet the right girl. But thank you for sharing.

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Brendan,
Slow down. You're a VERY young man. I would venture to guess that a good majority of the guys on CRT do not even know what we want to be when we grow up.

You have lots of time to try and figure it all out. There are places to explore and things to see.
There are also women the world over to meet that you haven't even dreamed of yet.

28? Hell, I'm nearly twice that age and I still haven't a clue but I'm still looking for answers.
I find that the older I get the less I know.

It's the journey, my boy, the journey!

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The journey, the hunt, the adventure. Life is what we make it. We can feel good about it, panic about it, work at it...or just take it one day at a time without stressing and trying to plan everything out. Seems peoples biggest fears in life are about the UNKNOWNS, yet...that is what keeps life interesting.

Going back to the other thread on happiest people in the world...I think a reason why many first worlders with all the bucks are unhappy is because...they are under a lot of pressure to PLAN every step of their way...careers, families and then retirement. KNOW what they want to "do with their lives", and of course have identity...which usually revolves around family and friends. Problem is...when identity and who we are gets too linked to our family friends and culture...we suddenly find OURSELVES lost in a suffocating, no freedom, no sense of adventure kind of world. We might have the bg house, big cars, 2.5 K*ds and all the trappings...but our time is boxed in working to pay for those THINGS.

I think what some guys...young and old...are finding in CR and other places is a freedom to get objective about all that. To breath a little easier...and realize life is bigger than what our media crams down our throats every day as having to be worried about.

Relax...and smell the chicas...I mean roses... :roll:


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I dug out my old video of "The Razor's Edge" with Bill Murray (1984) the other night. It's about the 4th time I've watched it.

After he returned from WWI he put his fiancee on hold while he went to Paris to "find himself". Six months later she shows up in Paris to find out what the story is.

He explains to her why he doesn't want to get married and be a stock broker: "I got a second chance at life. I'm not going to waste it on a big house and a new car every year and a bunch of friends who want a big house and a new car every year."

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Witling quoted the movie:
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"I got a second chance at life. I'm not going to waste it on a big house and a new car every year and a bunch of friends who want a big house and a new car every year."


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After a 50 YO birthday party for a buddy; he announced his 40 YO wife was expecting.
I told him "When I was 50 I had put my daughter thru NYU for her Masters and had just celebrated becoming dept free."
His response "Phuck you Rush"

Gee:I HAVE HEARD THAT ALOT FOR SOME REASON

PS: My x is on hubby#3 and I am divorced for 27 yrs. :D :D :D

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Well, thoughts of marriage again are completely out of my head. However, on my last trip I wondered if I could adopt the little spinner I met who was younger than my son and about half my age. If I adopt her can I still sleep with her? Or, is that incest?

Just think about it. If it doesn't work out, she has no claims on your stuff until you're dead and there's no law that you have to support your adult Ch*ldren or include them in your will. ;-) Hell, for you guys wanting to bring a chica to the US the adoption route may be easier and quicker. :roll: :lol: :lol:

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Witling wrote:
I dug out my old video of "The Razor's Edge" with Bill Murray (1984) the other night. It's about the 4th time I've watched it.

After he returned from WWI he put his fiancee on hold while he went to Paris to "find himself". Six months later she shows up in Paris to find out what the story is.

He explains to her why he doesn't want to get married and be a stock broker: "I got a second chance at life. I'm not going to waste it on a big house and a new car every year and a bunch of friends who want a big house and a new car every year."

Different people learn lessons at different times in their lives. Some never learn them at all. Take what you learn and make the most of it.


Dude i read this book and it was awesome. You have any other book suggestions?

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