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One night he tells me this story how he was sitting at the lobby bar and he notices this chica come through the main doors, fumbles with her ID, then grabs the closest seat... alone. She's out of place. He goes on to relate how he goes over after 15-20 minutes, sits down and begins to chat. She's new alright... very attractive, but to Sonny something wasn't right. She didn't belong in the HDR.

After an hour of conversation he says, "let's go" and they walk out the main door. She's thinking $$$ he's thinking something else. Standing outside he hands her 100 bucks. She appears dumbfounded probably thinking shouldn't this be happening in the room. Sonny tells her the following. "Take this money, get a cab and don't ever come back in this place again


Why ? Is there something wrong with the HDR . If something is wrong with the HDR, then what was he doing there to begin with?

Would he have done the same thing if she was sitting in a local Night Club ? NO ? Yes ? Why or Why not ?

If she was such a nice girl, then why wouldn't he call one of his friends to meet her . Doesn't he have freinds-wingman ? Or is she too good for them ?


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You can do all these things.

You can buy a girl a house. You can buy her mom a house.

You can set her up in a pimp pad and only you see her. Take her off the market. She is now yours. NO PROBLEM.

You can give a girl money to go home to Colombia and see here family., No Problem

It's your money , you can roll on it till if it ever runs out.

My problem is when people's only purpose is preventing you from doing that, to no benefit of his own. He admitted he had never met her. He just didn't want you to meet her. He just thought she was too good to meet you.

El Ciego if you'd been here and I'd meet a new girl, I'd presented her to you or Santa's Bro or Shawn or Cracker or Scuba or..... But I wouldn't of run her off.

MY Point is that if someone feels that these girls are too nice to meet CRT guys to the point that they want to pay them to run away from us then don't come here bragging about it.

If someone feels that the HDR is such a bad place that he wants to pay girls to leave, then don't go there. And if you do go, why are you there ?

Why do you think bragging to us that you ran off girls that you defined were too sweet and new to meet us is gonna score you points.

What do you want a trophy ?

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You must rhyme. Not my fault, blame Shakespeare. That English bastard. mo-anciento-fo. The poetic pimp, The gimme got game, The Figure my game prior to all Fours, The why, and not why? Who knows? He only left it open to an imagination. Brilliant. From what I can recall, he was never exposed to the ladies. Just a stuffie shirt, which would not bother anybody, the thought of it is already bothering me. Know what I mean? Nice portrait, but come on. Are you ever without a lady? Is one more the difference maker? She can never be, just a lady.

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Maybe she would have had a fisherman. Don't know. But, the lack of talent, that one that is missing, how do you know? You do not! Same way I do not. To bust a guys' chops, ok. To say he has ruined things, or to suggest it, sorry, I don't buy it! So many, can't buy it.

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my first wingman sent me this, how true

" most of the girls down here, lie as a self defense mechanism and to not have to face the truth, thinking most men couldn't accept them knowing the whole truth. Simpler, they may just want men to think they are as perfect as they want to appear to them, trying to hide what they consider to be the ugly truth about themselves. And I may be reading more into it than is there, but I do believe they consider the basis of the lies to be justified."


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Maybe she would have had a fisherman. Don't know. But, the lack of talent, that one that is missing, how do you know? You do not! Same way I do not. To bust a guys' chops, ok. To say he has ruined things, or to suggest it, sorry, I don't buy it! So many, can't buy it.
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Its not about one girl or one hundred girls, with or without pearls.

Its about a guy. A guy that thinks some girls are good enough for us and some are too good for us. And when he deems one girl too good to meet you or me, he will do the best he can to keep her from meeting us . He will do his best to get her away from one of our meeting places and tell her, "Don't ever come back in this place again".

Then to come here and want to be recognized for his "human of the year award". I say "a chu-bull-shit".

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To bust a guys' chops, ok. To say he has ruined things, or to suggest it, sorry, I don't buy it! So many, can't buy it.Dean



Then again , maybe it's not about that guy or his freind that posted. Maybe it about you and the others that "don't buy it."


I understand. I have witnessed this first hand. You, this guy , the poster, and many other "men" can't 'buy' it. Because where you live, you have been convinced there is something wrong with men meeting woman. They even have laws against it there. They have laws against prostitution. Many of these laws are based on religious beliefs. The police have "stings" from Craigslist where they arrest men, put their picture in the paper and ruin their life. Men who wanted to meet women.
They tell you it's wrong for you to meet girls if money may be involved and won't let any places like the HDR exist.

You and "so many" feel oppressed so you come here to find a place like SL or HDR. Then when someone wants to start the same rules for you , "you don't buy it". Sonny decided it was wrong for this girl to meet you, "ever". And you want to give him a plaque. You don't even recognize it .

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Icantstayaway wrote:
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Maybe she would have had a fisherman. Don't know. But, the lack of talent, that one that is missing, how do you know? You do not! Same way I do not. To bust a guys' chops, ok. To say he has ruined things, or to suggest it, sorry, I don't buy it! So many, can't buy it.
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Its not about one girl or one hundred girls, with or without pearls.

Its about a guy. A guy that thinks some girls are good enough for us and some are too good for us. And when he deems one girl too good to meet you or me, he will do the best he can to keep her from meeting us . He will do his best to get her away from one of our meeting places and tell her, "Don't ever come back in this place again".

Then to come here and want to be recognized for his "human of the year award". I say "a chu-bull-shit".


I got to thinking (and we should all be scared about that...)

There is really nowhere in all of CR where a chica can go to get instant money like this, other than the Gulch.

We really don't know ANY of these chica's situations until we get to know them after a while. But we do know that some of these girls come from HORRIBLE backgrounds.

Who's to say that that chica really didn't have a starving k(d at home and an abusive husband who demanded money. She goes to the DR, a guy pays her and she goes home but is now so conflicted that she's stuck between a rock and an abusive hard place with no food after that money runs out.

Now what does she do?

I don't think its as black and white as the original poster was making it out to be. Maybe it was in that situation, but it really was a roll of the dice.

I think, if we ARE going to go the giving the free money route (which I don't see as a problem at all), the comments should be kept to courtesies and friendly gestures. Otherwise, you may be pushing these chicas into something unattainable for them.

And always treat the chicas with respect no matter WHAT they do.

Just something to think about - reminds me of another post on a Dominican Republic board where guys were saying they were going to jump in and save these chicas from being taken away from the police. The problem, as one poster pointed out, was that unless you really knew the chicas, you had no idea if in this case, the police were RIGHT.


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This thread is gonna die a slow, painful death.


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Icantstayaway wrote:
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To bust a guys' chops, ok. To say he has ruined things, or to suggest it, sorry, I don't buy it! So many, can't buy it.Dean



Then again , maybe it's not about that guy or his freind that posted. Maybe it about you and the others that "don't buy it."


I understand. I have witnessed this first hand. You, this guy , the poster, and many other "men" can't 'buy' it. Because where you live, you have been convinced there is something wrong with men meeting woman. They even have laws against it there. They have laws against prostitution. Many of these laws are based on religious beliefs. The police have "stings" from Craigslist where they arrest men, put their picture in the paper and ruin their life. Men who wanted to meet women.
They tell you it's wrong for you to meet girls if money may be involved and won't let any places like the HDR exist.

You and "so many" feel oppressed so you come here to find a place like SL or HDR. Then when someone wants to start the same rules for you , "you don't buy it". Sonny decided it was wrong for this girl to meet you, "ever". And you want to give him a plaque. You don't even recognize it .


Is it possible you might be reading the situation wrong?

You're making the assumption the monger in the OP wanted to save the chica from a "bad" place full of "evil" mongers who want to do "bad" things to "poor" women. So you're jumping to the conclusion the OP is implying the HDR and places like it are "bad" places full of "bad" people whom this poor little girl should not be involved with less she gets "corrupted".

Since you're one of those people who frequent the HDR (like all of us), maybe you feel personally attacked, which might explain your numerous responses in this thread.

May I present another way to interpret the situation?

Maybe the monger in the OP was thinking, "Chica, it looks to me you're not the type of woman who can handle the big leagues. You look unprepared and apprehensive. You might hook up with a good guy, or you might hook up with an assmeg. Here's some cash, go home and think about it. Personally I don't think you should come back."

It's sort of like the old coach telling the freshman point guard he should season his game with another year or two in college before entering the NBA draft.

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P.S. Darn it, now I've gone and bumped this thread :(

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I love it when someone with some brains makes it interesting….

OK, Miami, let me be the devils advocate here. I do understand the coach analogy. But at least the coach knows the player and what he needs. Here it comes….

How the monger knows that this is what the chica needs? To show another side, maybe she could hook up with a newbie that would have giving her $500 for the night. Two sides to every coin.

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I love it when someone with some brains makes it interesting….

OK, Miami, let me be the devils advocate here. I do understand the coach analogy. But at least the coach knows the player and what he needs. Here it comes….

How the monger knows that this is what the chica needs? To show another side, maybe she could hook up with a newbie that would have giving her $500 for the night. Two sides to every coin.


Good point, J0sie. Let me answer thusly:

The same way a scout or a coach can watch a player workout for 1/2 hour and make an informed -- but of course purely subjective -- judgment about that player's abilities and prospects.

Yes, the scout (or experienced monger) can be totally wrong and maybe the player (or chica) didn't have his (her) A-game that day, but from what the OP described, it sounds like this was exactly what happened in this case.

This is my THEORY. I don't know if this was what was going through the monger's mind when he sent the chica home. But I think it's possible.

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You're making the assumption the monger in the OP wanted to save the chica from a "bad" place full of "evil" mongers who want to do "bad" things to "poor" women. So you're jumping to the conclusion the OP is implying the HDR and places like it are "bad" places full of "bad" people whom this poor little girl should not be involved with less she gets "corrupted".


Not making assumptions. Replying to the facts as he stated them.
1. If the HDR is not "bad, evil , etc, then why did he need to send her away. What other conclusion should be made. Does he stand outside Mcdonalds and save the girls from fatty food ?
2. We don't need a hall monitor.
3. If he is a hall monitor, this is not the place to brag about it.
3. I will let my CRT brothers decide for themselves if this girl is not right for them .


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Since you're one of those people who frequent the HDR (like all of us), maybe you feel personally attacked, which might explain your numerous responses in this thread.


No, I'm saying to make a decision. Either you feel for yourself the HDR is right or wrong. If it's right, then no need to save girls. If you feel it's wrong, then don't go. OR try to close it altogether. But this wouldn't be the appropriate forum for selling that .

Again, we are grown men. We don't need Sonny deciding for us.


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May I present another way to interpret the situation?
Maybe the monger in the OP was thinking, "Chica, it looks to me you're not the type of woman who can handle the big leagues. You look unprepared and apprehensive. You might hook up with a good guy, or you might hook up with an assmeg. Here's some cash, go home and think about it. Personally I don't think you should come back."

Wow, great wingman. "Hey I realize this place is now full of hard core girls. Man just 30 minutes ago I sent a real nice girl, "unprepared and apprehensive" home. She may have had a great time with you but you'll never know."
I would error to the side of caution to aide my CRT brothers. I think they are decent enough to rate this girl.


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It's sort of like the old coach telling the freshman point guard he should season his game with another year or two in college before entering the NBA draft.
No , from what the OP stated , this girl was not und***ge. Maybe very sweet, delicate, the girl-friend type, but he stated nothing about und***ge. Trying not to make assumptions.

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Miami - now, we are getting someplace …

I think we all agree that there is no way to know either way. This is why you have 10 pages of different opinions. Now, to continue being the devils advocate here;

Since there is no way to verify what the chica did with the money or if she ever need it, she could have just came back from that $500 newbie session, doesn’t this equates to a RFM from a chica saying her mother is sick, send me money? In this case, instead of an email, she created a created an act.

I will say that it could go either way and because there is no way to know, why Phuck around with the status quo?

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This thread is gonna die a slow, painful death.


Not soon Enough :roll: :roll: :roll:

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I'm going to run by the HDR and eat some breakfast. Maybe I'll save a chica while I'm there.

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Icantstayaway wrote:
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You're making the assumption the monger in the OP wanted to save the chica from a "bad" place full of "evil" mongers who want to do "bad" things to "poor" women. So you're jumping to the conclusion the OP is implying the HDR and places like it are "bad" places full of "bad" people whom this poor little girl should not be involved with less she gets "corrupted".


Not making assumptions. Replying to the facts as he stated them.
1. If the HDR is not "bad, evil , etc, then why did he need to send her away. What other conclusion should be made. Does he stand outside Mcdonalds and save the girls from fatty food ?

Assumption.

Fact is he sent her away. Assumption is "He sent her away FOR THIS REASON".
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2. We don't need a hall monitor.
3. If he is a hall monitor, this is not the place to brag about it.
3. I will let my CRT brothers decide for themselves if this girl is not right for them .

More assumptions. You are assuming he is trying to monitor your behavior. I don't see where he said that exactly.

Another one: you are assuming the chica in question was already 100% committed to letting herself be picked up by a monger. Maybe she still had doubts, and was testing the water. Maybe she was trying to convince herself to jump in the deep end of the pool. Neither one of us were there, so we don't know what that monger saw or heard.

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No, I'm saying to make a decision. Either you feel for yourself the HDR is right or wrong. If it's right, then no need to save girls. If you feel it's wrong, then don't go. OR try to close it altogether. But this wouldn't be the appropriate forum for selling that .

More assumptions. You're assuming the point of the OP was to present an ethical dilemma, a situation that can only be viewed as a yes/no, black/white decision.
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Again, we are grown men. We don't need Sonny deciding for us.


Another assumption -- that we are grown men (just kidding). You are assuming Sonny took it upon himself to deny his fellow mongers the charms of this new chica. My point here is maybe -- just maybe -- that wasn't his motivation AT ALL. You're the one saying it was. Or did I miss a post? I haven't read the entire thread so it is possible the OP said "Sonny wanted to keep this chica from evil mongers!".
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Wow, great wingman. "Hey I realize this place is now full of hard core girls. Man just 30 minutes ago I sent a real nice girl, "unprepared and apprehensive" home. She may have had a great time with you but you'll never know."
I would error to the side of caution to aide my CRT brothers. I think they are decent enough to rate this girl.

Does the chica get any input at all in this?

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It's sort of like the old coach telling the freshman point guard he should season his game with another year or two in college before entering the NBA draft.[/quote] No , from what the OP stated , this girl was not und***ge. Maybe very sweet, delicate, the girl-friend type, but he stated nothing about und***ge. Trying not to make assumptions.

Jesus Christ. HOW DID YOU GET I SAID SHE WAS und***ge FROM MY POST? Man, you really made a flying assumption on that one.

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