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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:58 am 
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Like Greg Norman, his ego is out of control and he treats people like crap.

I know 3 people who have met him in private settings away from golf, and they all say the same thing: an egotistical dickhead! What is it with these people who make money from the people hating the people.

I don't think Phil is a saint(although right now he is his wife's and mother's caretaker), but at least him and John Daly, they are very personable and you know what you are getting. Fuzzy, too. If this happened to any of them, they could recover because they are not making $$$billions selling the good boy image. I think before this scandal no one would say boo about Tiger, now that it is out there, people will be less afraid and spill,more. Also, I doubt the guys on tour in the club house are surprised by it. Althoug probably surprised by his wanton carelessness :shock: .

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Some guys are happy to marry one woman. Maybe they fall off the wagon at times, but it's not an obsession. Other guys accomplish fidelity with struggle and discipline, but feel it's the greater good for them. Then there are those guys who swing like a pendulum throughout life, at times married, at times single. You could say they enjoy the best of both worlds, or you could say they have the worst of both worlds, depending on your perspective. There are also those for whom marriage is good in theory only; that is, the idea of having a partner to share life is attractive, maybe involving a family as well. But the need to compromise is unacceptable for these guys, and so they make a mess of things if they marry.

There are going to be moments when a married man wants to roam - a lot of them - especially when the shit isn't to their liking. But biting the bullet and not always having your way is the "less bad" alternative to loneliness, at least if there is success in the marriage. The woman has to bite the bullet at times, too. Maybe "roaming" isn't so much the issue for women, but they have their compulsions and quirks. The ability of both partners to see the greater good of staying together is the only hope in the end. 50% of folks clearly don't see a greater good, and another 25% stay together in misery, for a variety of reasons. Maybe 20 to 25% of couples strike a balance. According to the literature, married folks live longer, despite the compromises that inevitably bring stress. Having someone who cares for more than your money is significant. Friends can substitute for partners, but only to a degree.

I think Tiger wants and needs the support of a good woman. But to get a good woman now, he's going to have to do some serious soul searching. Golf is not purposeful shit. Period. No sport is going to give meaning to a life, whether he's (she's) the best or not. And certainly money does not buy happiness. It's really quite simple. Want a good woman? Become a good man. Then work out your differences. And give up the cumpulsions..

..before it's too late.

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I have a very reliable source who says Mickelson is a very big fake. He has a reputation for womanizing and also is a high limit degenerate sports bettor. I do not know this personally, but my source is in a position to know for sure.

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He is not really a fake b/c this stuff is out there and known. But he is also not on a bunch of TV commercials acting like a boy scout. We know what we are getting with Phil. ALso, he is very likeable, personable, and just seems to enjoy golf and life. Tiger rarely shows any of that. Phil is liked by so many b/c despite his wealth and talents, he is just like us.

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bktuna - i don't know who your friend is or who he knows but if Phil is the fake he accuses him of being, he is a very likeable, friendly & considerate fake. and i'll take that any day over the sour, conceited, disconnected a-hole that is Tiger. Phil makes no bones about his love of sports gambling. he is very much the fan himself and unafraid of the public. he has truly mastered dealing with people and does so beautifully. has be had affairs? who knows?


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in the USA? please! we have the worst girls anywhere. i could name any number of countries that have hotter girls.

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:D please name them :!: but here i call it the united nations girls from everywhere here :!: :D so please name the places :arrow: you must be living in a rural place with the population being 100 :D


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This was released today by an inside source at the Public Relations firm / Law offices that Tiger uses... Sounds pretty close to accurate.. Just passing on the article.

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he following is a legitimate message I received from a trustworthy journalist I have known for years. It’s the Tiger-Elin incident finally put into reliable form, and I send along for no purpose other than to present the picture in its clearest form. —Furman Bisher

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I have a Member who lives 10 houses down from Tiger in Isleworth. As we know Tiger’s agent is Mark Steinberg. My Member plays golf and is real good friends with another IMG Agent; who is very good friends with Steinberg and they share the same office. This information came from the other IMG Agent to my Member, and then to me today, and according to them is up to date as yesterday when my Member left Orlando.

On Thanksgiving Day, after he and Elin and the family had turkey dinner, he spent the rest of the afternoon on the couch watching football and texting Rachel. After each received and sent text message he would clear his message box to rid himself of the evidence. Sometime in between there, one of his Orlando buds called him to see if he wanted to get together at the Clubhouse to play poker with the guys, to which Tiger said yes. Tiger left the house around 7:30 to go play poker, and left behind his cell phone….and one message he had forgot to delete from Rachel.

When Tiger returned home around 11:30 -12 that night, Elin confronted him about the text message in the phone, and the started a heated discussion to its regards. According to what I was told, there was more “incriminating evidence” than just the text message (i.e. photos). Tiger tried to play it off to Elin by telling her she was reading too much in to it, and did not know the story, etc. Tiger went upstairs to change into his gym shorts and t – shirt, came back down, and Elin confronted him again; to which Tiger gave the same story. Tiger sat down in a chair in the living room, and Elin sat across from him urging Tiger to just come clean. Tiger stayed to his guns and denied everything. At one point Tiger turned away to look at the TV, and as he turned back, Elin hit him on the right side of the face with the head of a 9 – iron. When she struck Tiger, she put a huge gash in the right side of his face next to his nose (causing his nose to bruise some), and virtually knocking two of his upper teeth out, and breaking the bone on the upper right side. Tiger ran scared as hell out of the house (which is why he had on no shoes) with Elin swinging the golf club throughout the hallway to the garage (i.e. causing the severe damage which has been reported). Tiger hoped in the Escalade and tried to leave; and as we know Elin knocked out the windows in the Escalade. When Tiger crashed, Elin panicked and was not sure what to tell the police (which is why there are two conflicting stories from her). When this happened, Elin immediately called Mark Steinberg to tell him what happened, and Mark told Elin to tell him what hospital they were going to, and he would meet them there.

Tiger is transported to the hospital with Elin in the ambulance, and as they arrive Mark is there waiting for them. The people from the hospital and the doctors take Tiger in for X-Rays etc to check out the damage caused. The doctors tell Mark there is not much they can do to repair the teeth and the gash, but the doctor knows a cosmetic dentist and plastic surgeon in Phoenix who will make Tiger look as if nothing happened. Tiger tells Mark to get the jet ready and let’s head to Phoenix to get this done. Friday after Tiger is released from the hospital, he does not return home; he and Mark board the plane for Phoenix. If you remember FHP kept showing up at Isleworth to talk to Tiger, and was told by another FL attorney (who Tiger hired for PR reasons) Tiger was not ready to talk. Well now we know why, he was in Phoenix, and did not arrive back in Orlando until either late last Wednesday night or early Thursday morning. The surgeries were more intense than what they had originally planned, which meant Tiger was in PHX longer than he should have been. Upon arriving back in Orlando, Tiger and Elin have been in intense marriage counseling sessions (up to 6 to 7 hours a day) every day! Both Tiger and Elin have told the counselors they love each other, and want to make the marriage work. The reports you are reading on TMZ and RadarOnline are about 30% accurate at best according to Mark.

In regards to Tiger’s boat being in Palm Beach this week, along with Rachel; that part is true. However, Tiger is not on the boat, and is not in Palm Beach; and Rachel is not on the boat. Her parents live 6 blocks from where the boat is, but that is it. Tiger has not returned to his house at Isleworth since the day of the accident except for the therapy sessions. IMG has enlisted the assistance of one of its most recognized sports figures, and Tiger has taken up residence in his neighborhood, Bay Hill. IMG contacted Arnold Palmer because of the high regard in which Tiger holds Arnold. Arnold has agreed, and IMG has said if anyone can get through to Tiger, Arnold may be the only person who can, based on his public persona when he was at the height of his game as well. The moving trucks being shown on TMZ and RadarOnline are moving out pictures and furniture which was damaged during their Thanksgiving Day argument; not of her moving out. Yes, Elin has retained a divorce attorney, but has not filed any papers, and as of yesterday had no intention on doing so. Tiger has not made any public appearances or statements due to the surgery and plastic surgery he had in PHX. It will be about another month if not more before he gets in front of a camera. Yes, Tiger is hitting golf balls late at night at Bay Hill out of their teaching center (which is equipped with lights).

That is as up to date as I have……..


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i got this exact same message from a friend of mine. who's knows what's fantasy and what's reality. tiger isn't saying. could be complete BS.


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Furman Bisher has been the sports editor for the Atlanta Journal for as long as I can remember. He would'nt pass along rumors. A lot of it fits with what has been said before.


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agree, the Furman Bisher story is very plausible.....wow, need to see if reports of drywall/painters trucks show up for the repair work.


the writer, now semi-retired?, once got an interview with Shoeless Joe Jackson about the 1919 “Black Sox” scandal for Sport Magazine.

he definitely has contacts and won the PGA Lifetime Achievement in Journalism Award in 1996.

his stories have been awarded Sports Stories of the Year over 20 times.

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On top of everything else it is now reported.. Tiger has been admitted to a clinic for SEX ADDICTION!


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/entertainme ... 3797.story

It has also been pointed out that close to 2000 members of Costa Rica Ticas will be joining him.... :!: :!: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


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As I mentioned I do not have any direct read on Mickelson. The take my source has who deals with him directly is that he is all fake nice to the public and is a real ass in the way he treats employees, customer service people etc.

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he is well known as the biggest tipper on tour. super generous with the clubhouse staff. if he is fake nice to the public he has done so for about 17 years now. he is never rude or aloof. he idolized arnold palmer, the greatest of all time with the public. and any guy that hates tiger is ok by me.


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Dude says his Member plays golf...pretty impressive!
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i wonder what his member's handicap is? i hear he's a real dick.


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