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I fired this thread back up because a couple of days ago I got a PM from a VIP who has never posted (believe it or not). The PM was basically "thanking me" for reminding him it's always about the money.... a statement that I made in a thread a couple of days ago "I lost my novia today - what do i do?" posted under Girl Reviews. It was his 3rd trip to SJO... I believe he's still in SJO... and he got involved to the point he forgot there was $$$ involved. He woke up and smelled the coffee... so to speak.

Every VIP should read the thread started by BKtuna in the VIP section... "Novia Rules and musings". http://costaricaticas.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=17105&start=0
It is one of the best and informative threads ever started. Anyone who believes thay have a "novia" in the true sense involving a working girl needs this thread.

What one calls a chica is unimportant. What one believes is happening and where the entire thing is going when dealing with a P4P girl... now that is what's important because as I always say...
it's always about the money".

Berk....

Double post deleted.

Thanks Berk I was on my way out the door to Western Union and luckily came across this thread first. Whew! What was I thinking?

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Living well is the best revenge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwUtj_YnNoY

With all due respect, this is a stupid argument.

Is it possible to have a “special relationship” with a working girl: yes.

Is it a big deal to call that girl a novia: no.

Is it the same as having a real girl friend: no

Does that mean there is no chemistry; no

Is the entire relationship dependant entirely on money: yes

Are many non-working girl relationships based on money: yes

Are men stupid about there relationships with women, both with working girls and otherwise: HELL YES

Any more questions?

Not necessarily... Although 99.999% of the time yes.

I myself haven't had it, but I do know people who've had it not be about money...


Other then that, you nailed it right on the head everywhere else...

With all due respect it is not a stupid argument. For you, yes. For many others, no simply because they lose a sense of reality and forget it's always about the money 99.99% of the time and a host of other things. Have you read the thread in VIP "Girls Rules and musings"?

Berk.....

Consider this... my middle finger!

Berk.....

Reality:

I must support Berk here: having a relationship with one of the girls is not a bad thing I do it myself. But you must keep reality within reach. She's in the relationship of the money to her is just a business deal yes she may like one business deal more than she does the next because she likes the guy she's doing the deal with as opposed to hates his guts. I also agree that all women even in the real world are there for the money. A girl at the Del Rey looks upon it as a business deal and that's it. Yes some do not ask for money up front they are looking at you as a long-term investment. They'll get their pay day you're just in reserve.

In the real world when presented with a choice of a man she could live with with money are a man she could live with without money she's go with the one with the money. The primary difference is in her head and the way she thinks about it. In the real world it is just easier to love the man tha can take the best care of your. It's not a business deal its romance at least to her. In way too many cases guys going to Costa Rica get confused about what kind of relationship there in. You can't blame them we all like to think that some young sexy girl is in love with you. That's why from time to time we need to talk about this so that those guys that are slipping into thinking of these girls as they would a girl back at home will have an opportunity for a reality check.

Lee

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PS: DO NOT SEND MONEY!

It took awhile, but I finally finished reading this thread and I must say flat out you have a great point, but you are also missing the point. Let me explain. Being raised up in the inner-city with the pimps and the ho*s I learned much.
1. It takes alot of mental toughness to be in this life.
2. There must be no compasion for others since you have a goal and that goal is to use what you have to get what you want.
3. You must do it quickly since your mind and body never hold up as long as you would like.
4. There can be satifaction in any line of work (it is not the job you do but how well you do it- thanks grandma for that one)

My last trip while sitting in the SL a CRT member told me he was in love with a "working girl" like he was embarrashed by this. I thought about a street lesson I once learned. If you were married, broke and had a family with mouths to feed. How would you feel if your lady came to you and said "before we met I was a working girl and I love you and all you have done, but I have a guess coming over so I can make are bills this month. I need you to take the K*ds to a movie here is the money. Please do this for us and our family". How would you react? I looked that CRT member directly in the eye and said that I would never look down on your happinest no matter how you achieved it and I have the most respect for you and your lady.

So in closing there are many sides to this, but happinest is ones own goal and if a CRT member is acheving his happiness by calling or falling for a novia. You have my respect and you always will

By the way nothing in life is free. Love is the most costly thing we do. (thanks pretty Tony for that)


NYG

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Damm that water is cold!!!
And deep too!!!

Ok Berk sorry for having fun in this serious thread of yours, it does seem you are trying to save some poor souls from wasting their time and money on a fantasy while making fools of themselves. There are guys that need to be educated on this topic and will take it to heart, there are guys that already know better and may fall for one and give it a try anyway, there are those few that do succeed and seem happy and then there are those that are just hopeless. Lee mentioned a chica being with a guy and hating his guts, well I've actually seen this scenario- a guy trying to have a serious relationship with a chica that hated his guts (but loved his wallet) and it makes you wonder how anyone can be so clueless and out of touch with reality. Sadly a few of these guys show up every day in the gulch and they won't listen to common sense but will just have to bang their head against that brick wall for a few months and learn the hard way, or maybe not, they will just think they picked the wrong puta and try it again with another.
Yes there are some good points in this thread and of course they don't all apply to everyone but the general warning to stay on guard against falling over that line between reality and fantasy is always a good one to heed.

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Living well is the best revenge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwUtj_YnNoY

And here's one my grandma left for me:

"Nothing that's worthwhile in life comes easy."

The guys who've hooked up with their puta "novias" may want keep that one in mind next time...

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I have also seen and American women hate a guys guts but love his wallet

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Damm that water is cold!!!
And deep too!!!

No one is trying to save anyone from any fantasy or actually anything else. Folks are free to do whatever they want, when they want and with whoever they want. I am not talking about fantasy though. We're talking about believing fantasy is now reality. Hell, even Latinoheat understands that.

I won't shoot you the finger anymore. "Heat" called and said this is for you though..... ... it's a joke.

Berk.....

I have too be honest and say I am in the camp of those who can, at times, get annoyed when someone sits there and gets too deep and too serious about the whole "my del rey hooker is my novia thing".....

so I have taken a little more time (but not that much more) too think this one through and learn more about myself....

why do I feel this way I ask myself?

well the first thing is that the term "novia" when used in reference to these working girls only raises the hair on the back of my neck for as long as it takes to say or read the word.

I think what causes me to get annoyed is when someone takes it deeper and keeps it going and going and going and I pretty much have to follow along what I believe is bullshit that kind of wears on me. It might be cool to just let it go and forget about it which is what I find myself doing most of the time....but as time goes by I find there are moments I just want to call bullshit to the whole thing and be honest about it(and lets not even get into having to sit through the "raked over the coals" sob stories after everyone else sent up red flag warnings all over the place)...I dont feel like partaking in some surreality based in bullshit at that point in time.

I dont know why there are times I feel more comfortable living in reality but I just do.

I have to admit that there have certainly been times when I was smitten with a chica or two down in CR and felt all warm and fuzzy about it and drifted out into the world of make believe and all and it was great....I loved it, its why I keep going back.

The best analogy I can give is some people like their weed, some people like their rum and coke some people like their "novia" surreality........it gets us all where we want to be when we feel the need to get there.

The thing is, what works for one person doesn't necessarily work for the other...I have come across plenty of friends, really cool people, that like their "mary jane" to give them their euphoria and all and I am totally cool with it....no big deal too me...have a great time with it.....

BUTTTTTT....

for me I have never really gotten off on "mary jane" it just doesnt work for me. Not a big deal, I just dont indulge. Talk about gambling, or alcohol and its another story.....but some people I think are real cool just aren't into gambling or drinking to take them where they need to be ....other people say yes to drinking it up sometimes and no at others....whatever works for you is cool with me. If your not into drinking or gambling to get your rocks off, I'm not going to try and sell you on it and talk you into drinking and gambling.

I guess my point is, I really dont care what anybody calls their whatever....just like I really dont care what other things people to do get their rocks off, but what works for one person to get their rocks off doesnt always work for someone else to give them the same high... and for thosewho see it differently they dont always want to sit there long term and wallow in a surreality which is really nothing more than an extremely long ....day after day...long term bong hit.

I'm cool with you liking your weed...I really am....but please dont blow the smoke in my face because I'm just not into that stuff to get high EVERY DAY!

let the flaming start, but its how I feel.