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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:38 pm 
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Some thoughts here...

Many here have discussed marrying a working girl, and the obvious pitfalls, easy enough to see...

But is a non-pro really that different, in most cases?
I have heard the term of girls being "phucked and chucked" by lots of guys before she finally gets married...
I have also heard the term "unpaid whores" regarding women who will sleep with a guy while not married, for whatever reason:
-trying to reel him in
-wanting a one-night stand
-her own insecurities, etc, etc, etc

We have also heard the phrase "You pay for it one way or another" thanks to the illustrious Pacoloco

In light of all this, is there really that much difference between girls who take money directly for sex and those who have sex for motives that are not directly 'green cash money'? Aren't they ALL doing it with a motive? Even in "Love" they have ulterior motives many times. Are hookers really the only honest ones, since they tell you the cost up front?

I do want to qualify this by saying that there ARE a select few girls who are not promiscuous, and CAN be trusted. They are the exception.
The rule, however, is that most of them function in a 'whore' mode extensively. This being, technically, sex for something in exchange.

How can a guy know if the girl he is "in love" with has been with 6 guys or 60? Or if she was 'working' in the past? Especially if he did not meet her in that type of setting or if he does not have good access to info about her reputation....??? And they can be such cunning liars...

I wonder if I could even know a girl for several years in a 'relationship' and still not have my doubts about her past.
If I wanted to settle down with a nice girl, there is no guarantee.
If I want a girl a bit more 'pure', but have been with more girls than I would ever admit to a GF, does that make me an *sshole?
If you are with a 'puta' you want her to have skills and experience...but what if you want long term? Do you want her to have skills and 'mileage' or prefer less 'wear and tear' in her past....?

Is there really that much difference between pro and non-pro? Is there even SUCH A THING as a non-pro? Or am I just a cynic?

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Solamente,

My experience tells me it is different in High School where girls seem to have more true motives about who they really like for who they are but most of us are past those days now. So most women I know by now use sex for some major gain they see coming their way. They have learned the harsh realities & now don't want to give it up unless something good is going to happen & they need to basically use someone.

So many women I have worked with thru the years as soon as their stupid way of running their lives catches up to them I hear them crying out I NEED A GUY TO TAKE CARE OF ME! And what this really means too me is I they want a guy to fix all their stupid messes they have created at his expense & in the end they want to mess up his finances exactly like they messed up their own instead of learning from a guy that has his shit together. For me NO THANKS I just like to play with them & let them go before the shit hits the turbine!! :wink:

This is one reason I like to just pay for it as long as I get the honeymoon night out of it for myself. Why not be selfish they sure seem to be? Also you get what you really want without all the hassles of meeting mom & dad along with avoiding all the heartbreak of psoriasis & the hidden costs of prolonged dating..

The best women I have seen that make good wives to me are ones that have not been around much at all & are young & you can mold them. The first cut seems to me to not only be the deepest but the truest also. I am back from another trip & one of my reliable favs didn't have time for me during Xmas & New years & I new why. It had to be her main supporter (super sugar papi) was in town. Well after New years she had time. Why well he must have had to go back home & make more money to send her. What was interesting is she had a tampoon in her when she arrived to play with me. Humm I looked at her body & things where not the same as a few months ago. She had nipples super dark & breast twice as big with a big mid line pigment strip down her stomach?? Obvious she was pregnant & not by me thank God! She did ask me to shoot live ammo in her but I declined! :twisted: She said she was recieving injections & could not get pregnant. :oops: She said no way it was just her period! I thought period my ass but we did other things & I finish CIM style. So take a good look at this she probably left the guy that impregnated her as soon as he got on the plane all teary eyed I bet & then sucked me off as soon as he left. I do not think you can trust much of any of them & if you want to get serious hire a private detective to find the whole history it is money well spent! By the way I have been doing this one for over 3 years while someone else has been paying her bills & she has always been GFFE PLUS??? :idea: :?

It is rare for me to repeat but this one is a real beauty and oh so sweet & don't see her out working anywhere. She knows several countries in Europe first hand so you can kind of get the picture. Now I pulled the old Mikey-B out of my ass & it is on to the NEXT option & will drop this one before she gets real BIG!

One good friend of mine said I use to think guys were the dogs but think women have us beat to hell as I have lived life & how they really function. They can be very heartless & cruel! It appears to me it is use or be used & usually who gets the most upset is the one that doesn't get the last blow in. The more you see & learn in this life it does harden you but there are some good ones still out there & it never pays to show the cynical side of yourself when you are out to hunt your next option.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:26 pm 
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It's funny how so many people think young women, especially in America, are "safer", have had "fewer" partners, or "less mileage". This is so far from the truth, no wonder "men are from mars...".

I remember in high school, there were so many girls going around from guy to guy, that you never know who was doing who. There was a running joke that the local doctors could have their own year book from all of the abortions girls were having.

After they turn 21...they end up in bars full of guys, and it's like a smorgasborg for them. They are no longer inhibitted by their friends, they have the freedom to "try out" new flavors, and they do so with gusto.

Think about this...if you could walk in a bar and approach any girl in the place and have sex with them, would you ?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:01 pm 
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Don't even let me post on this thread. But, Zippy makes numerous good points. I now know that their is a BIG difference between a girl who will accept money directly for sex and one who may use other tactics. The thought of marrying a working girl HAS crossed my mind. But, it's true, they are truly damaged goods. I could write a complete dissertation on this subject and present it for a PHd but I'll spare you all the boredom.

I've not posted a tremendous amount lately as I'm becoming more of a lurker...just watching the same old subjects come and go. Just different names posting. I have several guys on my "watch list" and will try to keep up with their lives and watch the action unfold. I have a good FRIEND and yes, she is a FRIEND who is a former prostitute. (She worked as an escort and as a street walker in Detroit) I have gleaned alot of information from her. She is retired from the biz but still receives support from several different men. None of which knows about the others. Her advice to me about my situation was that I would NEVER be the only one regardless of how much love, affection or money I gave. A whore is a whore for life. Sorry to put it so brutally but that came from her. They learn how to be successful with their God given talent of deceit. Reread Zippys post.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:37 pm 
The regular Ticas are so much more appealing to me for a variety of reasons. I realize that most pros are decent human beings just wanting a better life but I think the life spoils them to a life of easy quick money. As long as their looks hold on it will always be a big temptation. After all going to school and getting a decent job is work and takes dedication and money. And many pros turn to the booze and drugs which are so rampent.

There are so many non pros around San Jose it is incredible. And if they like you sex is a given on the first date or the night you meet them. Then they will be in your bed because they want too not because it is their job. Big big difference.

I took a couple home from Bar Castro a few nights and were they hot WOW.

Money is always in the equation I realize that but I will take the non pro anyday. Much cleaner ( no sloppy 17th) , hotter, and most likely better educated and elegant.


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....but I will take the non pro anyday. Much cleaner ( no sloppy 17th) , hotter, and most likely better educated and elegant.

For the most part, I agree, but this is not always true. Some of the "non-pros" are very inexperienced, and some of them can't suck or ph*ck to save their lives. I don't go to CR to give some chica lessons on how to screw or give good head. YMMV.
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For the most part, I agree, but this is not always true. Some of the "non-pros" are very inexperienced, and some of them can't suck or ph*ck to save their lives. I don't go to CR to give some chica lessons on how to screw or give good head. YMMV.
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I have to agree with Zman & Mikey-B here. It is a balancing act trying to find the perfect combination of good performance without harshness or being so mechanical like many Colombianas. I hate the ones that talk a big game to sell themselves & then you find out it was mostly talk. I avoid the ones that talk like this since it is the sign of a pro the non pro are embarrassed to talk like this! Kind of like men that talk openly about all their money which is generally a front for their insecurities & generally people that have it hide it knowing it will only cause them hassles in the end.

I had 4 different Ticas slip thru my screening that were far too inexperienced & turned out to be so so & really a bad investment in time & money! :twisted: One was so cute to talk to but in the bed room she freaked after riding me cowgirl for 6 to 7 minutes she starts in what is wrong with me!!! You aren't getting off just like my last HUSBAND!! What is wrong with me over & over? I finally became fed up & said why don't you learn to relax & make passionate love & learn to be smooth while taking your time & stop being so insecure about yourself. I said you are making something so easy so difficult, let it flow like a slow romantic dance & go with the music that was playing. Anyway I couldn't get off to say the least. She had experience because she had been married but she is one that never learned how to flow with the moment (A basic lousy lay & I bet she will always be that)! Dingy girls have always been dingy screws which have never been all that good for the most part.

I agree I don't have the time to teach either but if you seek newbies like me you run a risk of this. I also had 4 stinky ones all young & very fair complexion. I seldom find stink in the pink of Morenas. I have to organize all my experiences in a trip report.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:40 pm 
"I seldom find stink in the pink of a morena".

Funny, I will have to try to remember that. I do like the morenas.

I agree that occasionaly a non pro may be inexperienced. I would prefer that to a typical mechanical session with a pro.

I think most Ticas are very experienced , start young and have the hot latina blood but there are always exceptions.

To each his own.

And let me add that one of the few negatives about mongering is that you do not get to hone your flirting and seduction skills. A guy should always practice this as much as possible.

And what is better than warming up a somewhat reluctant Tica to a screaming howling orgasm. Some of these gals go off like a hand grenade , unbelievable but wonderful.


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Dapanz1 wrote:

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Her advice to me about my situation was that I would NEVER be the only one regardless of how much love, affection or money I gave. A whore is a whore for life. Sorry to put it so brutally but that came from her.


She may be 100% correct in her feeling.

She may be 100% incorrect (not counting her off course)

My point is that you should not base your conclusion, on any subject, based on the personal opinion of one person. Yes she was a practicing prostitute for some time so she has some knowledge but like all similar situations her opinion has been shaped by many factors some conscious some unconscious. Another girl given identical work experience might have a totally different conclusion because of the factors that shaped her decisions.

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Zman,

I like your style & thinking. I look for & like the same things! :P
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And let me add that one of the few negatives about mongering is that you do not get to hone your flirting and seduction skills. A guy should always practice this as much as possible.


I realize how true this is & go ahead & apply all my little skills I have acquired thru this life on all of them as what does it hurt it is fun & free and many find you cute so they give you a more real experience & it keeps you in practice for the real world. Many of the Chicas that are less pro get lost in this game also if we push the right buttons & from your other quote the way you wrote it I can tell you have master a good game for yourself & that is what is as much fun as any part of the dance we do with them when everyone reaches true satisfaction equally! :P It would be easy to just point & shoot with the money we have but this would sure be boring too me! :wink:

One thing I have noticed with men as we age we seem to derive more & more pleasure by taking our time & caring to please women & their needs even though it is a random temporary please so much of the time. I think our hormones & energy levels settle down to the point where we get more out of the whole experience.

Dapanz1,

I know things have been a real pain for you of late but it goes with the territory as you well know. Remember one thing the dance we do is with many venomous ladies (putas) & many of us are full of venom as well & very experienced since most of us are older than them along with us generally developing advanced manipulation skills so the dance of two snakes is a dangerous mix to begin with, it’s who bites & releases first who usually comes out the happiest in the end. These P-ladies as nice as they can appear are tainted goods for ever like you said nothing wrong with that for me as long as you keep your costs under control while achieving the pleasure we crave end of story!

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Zip, although I was the beneficiary of her scam I was disappointed in her tactics. It just shows that these women will stop at nothing to get what they want. Even though the guy is a true scumbag in every sense of the word, he didn't deserve to be deceived in the manner he was deceived. She is a venemous snake and her pic will be posted for all to see as a "mala chica." I didn't ever want to do that to her but, no choice. She should be avoided on many levels. A few guys on here can vouch for my words. But, this isn't my thread. I just put in my 2 cents.

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This post is right up my alley, so to speak. It gets to the heart of what men and women have been wondering since Methuselah was a baby; namely, does she (he) really love me? It's odd that would be a question as early as the first encounter, but it often is. We want acceptance and more from the first moment, and if that were not the case, why would the gfe be so important? We want them to kiss and hug and suck and swallow, just like a girl who was crazy for us, and the better she is at creating that fantasy, the louder we applaud.

But it takes two to tango. She wants to feel that she's not merely a red hot, receptacle wench. The better you are at convincing her she means something to you as a person, the more you're a bfe, and women applaud that, make no mistake.

When a girl accepts money, men have an impossible task, if trying to descern sincerity. It's hard enough with a woman who only accepts houses, cars, and vacations to exotic islands. The reason is obvious, but over time, the truth reveals itself. She either really likes you or doesn't. Foreign girls can fool you even without taking money by taking little or none of it, but accepting a marriage license. That's gold to some Central and South American girls.

Women are just as in the dark, or more so. They certainly don't know if you respect them, want to continue a relationship, or anything else by hot passionate sex alone. Guys have no problem with "phuck and chuck" to use that quote.

I suppose the only sure way to know if a woman digs you just for who you are is to be fat, ugly, old, and poor. If she still digs you, you're in the money. But how likely is that, even if you have a heart of gold? And what about her? When does she really know your motives? When the reality of a relationship sets in and she gets a little older and pregnant, are you out the door, checking out fresh? I refer to what a dear (garota) friend has said to me on more than one occasion, and I've mentioned it on this board; "Women suck, but so do men."

Do you have a better chance with a civilian of not getting burned? The jury's out, as far as I'm concerned. All I know is I have a lot of amigas who take or have taken money, from novices to hardcore pro's. In some cases they make terrific company and I'm not ready to write them off as a group.

But if I find a girl who is as exciting but prefers the house, car, and vacation, I'll probably be blinded by the illusion of her chastity, just as I have before. We guys are pretty gullible, if I may speak for the entirity of the the male species.

Pathetic is another word that comes to mind. Oh.....women, too.

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I am of the belief -- true love is hard to find, not hard to detect.

Put the lady you think loves you to some basic tests that would turn off most ladies and if she still sticks around, you are on the right path.

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She either really likes you or doesn't. Foreign girls can fool you even without taking money by taking little or none of it, but accepting a marriage license. That's gold to some Central and South American girls.


How about telling her that you are out of a job and thinking of moving to her town hoping she can support you for a while while you get back on your feet? That should separate the water from the martini.

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