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 Post subject: To Test a Chica??
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 9:14 am 
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Interesting I was watching the movie A Bronx Tale last night and Chaz Palmeterri used the simplest analogy of testing a women. Now I have seen this many times, but never realized the simplest point.

Open the door for your lady, walk around the back of the car and make sure you car door is locked. Look though the back window. If the women does not take the time to use the power lock or to reach over and open the door for you, dump her, as the Gringa Bitch will always be selfish and you are in for a long ride ahead!

Now we don't like to play games, well not much, It made me wonder what other tests are out there to find out the true level of a Latinas devotion. This could really get interesting as, think of all the various tests you can use to test not only latinas but working girls......

Hmmmm Makes you think!

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 10:22 am 
GREAT IDEA!!!! maybe TMAN would let me borrow his car. so i can try this out. if she opens the door than take her back to the hotel, and if she doesnt than tell her you changed your mind :P pura vida


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 10:38 am 
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Here's a couple of tests...

Ask her for a loan, even a relatively small one.

Give her some money to gamble with. If she wins, see if she gives you back the original stake. I had one favorita who I gave perhaps $20 to
gamble with at the Colonial. She won over $100 on the roulette wheel,
and when I asked her for the original $20 back she refused and even
acted insulted that I would ask her for it back.

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I think it was KingCosta that did the "shrimp cocktail test"- take her for a bite to eat and if she orders the most expensive thing on the menu or a 20.00 shrimp cocktail, :evil:
give her the boot!

Or we could all borrow Tman's car...

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I was very impressed that on my last trip I gave my Dominican 5K to put in the slots. She walked away with over 20K. She went to the cashier, got the cash and handed it straight over to me. I didn't say a word. Of course, she knows her payoff comes just before I pay my departure tax at the airport. :oops:

As for running tests...I've never been a big believer in small tests. I think that any latina (or gringa for that matter) can beat the small tests for a long time. I think alot of how we view the opposite sex has to be sheer gut instinct...chemistry. As we all know with ANY member of the opposite sex YMMV. Life is too situational to base decisions on small tests. Having said that, next time I open the door for a lady I'm going to be looking through the back windshield. :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 2:36 pm 
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Paco ....

I love the Shrimp Cocktail test. How about this one. Give her 10,000 for a 3,000 item she needs to buy and she if she brings you back the change.


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 3:02 pm 
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King Costa wrote:
Paco ....

I love the Shrimp Cocktail test. How about this one. Give her 10,000 for a 3,000 item she needs to buy and she if she brings you back the change.

I have never got change.
Even if I am gambling, the TICA will expect the money when I cash in.

Remember, we have the wallets.
We are gringos .
We are rich.

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Capo,
That test is pretty good (as long as you drive a 1968 Caddy like Sonny's or some other car WITHOUT automatic doorlocks) but one I think is much more applicable to the chicas we meet at the BM comes from Calogero's buddy "Crazy Mario". What he recommended was to take your girl on a drive on the highway. When you pass a truck you get the driver's attention and then you take your girl by the back of her neck and shove her down into your lap. If she starts to blow you in front of him, shes nothing but a sleazy whore, great for getting your rocks off but not much else. OTOH, Mario was not the sharpest tack in the box. He ended up blowing himself up with a molotov cocktail by the end of the movie.

That movie had a lot of other great lessons.

1) Never rat on no one. That's the lowest thing you can be in the neighborhood where C grew up and something he just knew from an early age.

2) "There's nothing sadder than wasted talent". A loser isn't someone who's stupid; he never had a chance, God made him stupid. A loser is a guy who could have made something of himself but didn't. A loser is a guy with wasted talent.

3) Why care so much about Mickey Mantle? Look at all the money he makes, but is he gonna pay your rent? No, he doesn't give a Phuck about you. So why give a Phuck about him? In other words, some people are obsessed with other people's opinion. Who gives a damn? Nobody cares. Take care of yourself -- no one else will.

4) When C was chasing after a guy that was ducking him because he owed him $20, Sonny told him "It costs you $20 to get rid of him." The point was that for a measly $20, this punk from the neighborhood would never ask C for money or bother him again. He got off cheap. The lesson? Sometimes you have to take a loss, but in the end you're better off cutting your losses and moving on. Get too hung up on the past, especially on small things, and you'll never move ahead.

5) Never underestimate your enemy. In another scene, some fat bikers walk into Sonny's bar and disrespect him and his establishment because Sonny was polite. He turns and walks toward the door with their laughing at him behind his back, but when he locks the door and turns back to them and says "Now yous can't leave.", their jaws drop and their faces turn white. They underestimated him, and it cost those cafones.

6) "Availability". Always stay close to the action. Stay close to your people, so they know you are always there. And stay closer to your enemies, so they don't think they can pull anything on you.

7) And one of the big questions from the movie, with opposing answers between Chazz and Bobby "Is it better to be loved or feared?"


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 4:16 pm 
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One important test I truly believe in is take them shopping & see how they spend money. Do they only buy things for themself first or their other family members first. This tells me all I need to know. Is she a giver or a taker very important!! I HAVE RUN THIS TEST MANY TIMES WITH THE DR TYPE OF LATINAS & MOST ARE TAKERS.

Zippy

PS One added advantage to this test is you don't even have to speak the language to figure this one out as the idems do most of the talking.


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Zippy, excellent post. That IS one test that shows colors immediately. That's what I'm talking about.

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Gringotim wrote:
Give her some money to gamble with. If she wins, see if she gives you back the original stake. I had one favorita who I gave perhaps $20 to gamble with at the Colonial. She won over $100 on the roulette wheel, and when I asked her for the original $20 back she refused and even acted insulted that I would ask her for it back.

Well no wonder! Its not completely her fault. You could have made it clearer that it was just a loan (préstamo), though she still could have voluntarily returned your favor anyway. I mean, you don't automatically share your winnings with her, do you? Okay, maybe not the best analogy. But, I think you should've said something beforehand like "Si usted pierde, no problema, pero si usted gana puede pagarme o nosotros puede partirlo." (If you lose, no problem, but if you win you can pay me back or we can split it). Then see if she remembers.

All ballbusting aside, though, thats not that bad a test. Its kind of a pricey way to learn though (especially if she loses because then you don't learn anything), I think seeing if you get change back on 5K colones or whether she orders the $20 entree instead of the $10 entree is much more in my price range.

When you get right down to it though, in most cases the typical chica pro is going to fail these tests. Let's face it, they're there to get money out of us. Some may content themselves with what we offer them back in the room (or at the airport) and others play for everything they can squeeze out of us. But its still all about the money. The former may be more believable GFFE's, but to test them for how well they qualify as esposas or novias is a bit pointless, because they're never REALLY going to be that good at either. Your best bet is to decide how well they pass the only real test that counts, how well they do in the sack, enjoy your times outside the bedroom as much as possible and, regardlessly, always always keep control of your wallet.


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Prolijo,

Great advice & as always enjoy reading your posts.

One thing I like to do is study the cultural differences when I am not in the rack with someone. I always like to see what really is different there than in my sand box & tests or situational things (actions speak louder than words) really helps me get a clearer picture of whats real. Sure we are all made of the same material but what molds us in to truly interesting humans is our thoughts, expressions & values I believe & these vary quite a bit from place to place. The biggest consistent differences I have found in testing are we are a society all about me & they are one more of all about the family generally speaking or at least that is what I have found. This is why living with a good family where you travel is so valuable to me.

I spend more than half my time just mixing with the Locals in small towns where you don't find tourist where ever I travel just for this reason. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Zippy


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I must admit I had an ulterior motive when I wrote this as I wanted to share an expierience of something that happened to me and A BIG TIME TEST I tried.

Some great stuff here, now I will give you a test, which was very real to life and I did not know what to expect as I rolled the dice with hope for the best, but I am a cynic and just don't trust women.

About 5 months ago I stopped in SJO for one of my 24 hour trips on my way home from another Country. I was in no mood to hunt, so I pulled up an escort site.. NOT G&G... I gave him a list of 5 gals and none were available.. BIG SURPRISE..... The guy was cool, and said He had a nice girl and could he bring her buy to meet me....

So the guy brings over a chica for me to meet at the bar of Intercontinental... This girl was a true naive semi to almost 1st timer.. I mean classy, tall beautiful, and we hit it off big time. 24 years old, she spoke passable English and was as student so she said. And she was just perfect.

250 TLN from the site and she was so Hot I did not argue.

An incredible night of passion, food, drinks, passion, Jeez I am 18 again and hooked high schooler...

She tells me after I am home a few days, that she had worked for the escort company for just a couple weeks and had gone on 5 dates so far, but she quit, and loved me yada yada yada.... I mean I was thinking of ditching my long time GF here in the states... for this babe and moving her to NYC as she had a Visa.... The emails the phone calls every day it was insane.

I couldn't stop thinking about her, and made 3 straight weekend trips to SJO from NYC just to be with her. I began staying at the Intercontinental as my company was paying for it so I stayed there every weekend for 3 weekends. I was giving her a couple bucks but I mean truly just a couple bucks... not sending money, just some chump change.

OK the test... I go down un-announced check into the Radisson just outside the Gulch....Different hotel..... Call up the site, and ask for my girl. The guy tells me she no longer works for them. GREAT!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: SHE LOVES ME!

AHHH the plot thickens.... I tell him, I was with her and I give the guy a date on the calendar, about a week before I met her to be safe and I was really disappointed.. As I wanted to see her again.....He said he had many others to choose from.. I tell him I really wanted this special lady and told the guy to call her and ask her if she meets me I'll give her $600 for tonight till I have to leave late Sunday about 36 hours.... he asks for my room number and tells me he will call me right back.

5 Minutes later, he tells me no problem she will be there in 30 minutes... and will meet me in the bar........My heart Sunk... I could not believe she was going to walk through the door..... I mean she couldn’t could she????? Well, went to the bar drank about 5 glasses of Johnnie Black with hope this was all a bad dream and the guy would send a different girl.

30 minutes on the dot she walked right in the bar saw me and broke into tears...... she tried to give me some line of shit about needing the money etc... But I just didn't want to hear it... I walked out hailed a cab and headed to the Rey, where many cocktails later, was just not in the mood to screw and headed back to pass out.

Woke up the next day and flew home and realized I had made the tragic mistake of believing the fantasy. Once that life changing decision is made to work in the biz, it always becomes about the buck as it is just too tempting. Now this was an expensive lesson learned due to the regularity of the trips etc, but it just makes you scratch your head some times....

I know this is a bit extreme but had to share this even which did not turn out like I expected.

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Capo,
You know I'm about as cynical as they come around here, but I really don't think your test was completely fair. Sure, I don't blame you for being disappointed seeing her walk back into that hotel, but let's face it $600 IS a LOT of money down there. Hell, if I were a retired working girl and somebody offered me what amounts to well over a month to two month's wages for making just one more appearance and didn't think my novio would ever know, I'd have to give it serious thought too. Putting it on the other foot, that would sort of be like her arranging for Miss Costa Rica to show up that night in her place and expecting you, thinking she would never know, to pass that up. Be honest. How faithful would you have been if a tempting enough opportunity came along?

In fact, if you think about it, in many ways you were really the bad guy in all of this. You didn't trust her, possibly for good reason, but prior to that she'd never really given you cause not to. You actively put a serious temptation in front of her, creating a situation that would most likely not have occurred otherwise. I mean how many guys pay $600/nt for a girl in CR or, if they do, are likely to specifically ask for her. And then, when she failed your practically impossible "test", you spurned her and basically broke her heart along with yours. You set her up to fail. Man, come to think about it, you're a real bastard, aren't you? :twisted: (no offense)

Now, I admit that she wasn't going to get the whole $600 for herself and don't know how little or much it really took to sway her faithfulness. Or whether that was the only time after meeting you that she had gone for somebody else. Or, for that matter, whether her whole story was really true from the beginning and she had as little experience in the biz as she claimed. I also don't know whether some other aspect of her personality and different cultural and generational background would have doomed your budding relationship from the outset. However, I don't think you should rush to any definite conclusions just based on this "test".


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 6:51 pm 
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Prolijo:
I agree with you that it probably wasn't the fairest of test, but I didn't want it to be fair. I had to come up with a number above her normal rates but nothing to rediculous that she couldn't pass up. The agency was going to get 375 / 400 for 36 hours... So I offered a bonus which I didn't think was that outrageous. she receive 50% o the agency fee plus the $200.00
or $400.00 total her end.

Yes it is a lot of money down there, but not enough to explain for her to go back to the biz. If you had seen emails or heard the conversations, there was no way I expected her to bite on a few hunderd dollar offer. To be honest my expecations were for the guy to tell me no way, she was not avaialable on the second call... and I was going to call her, a couple hours later and surprise her that I had came to town and party with her for a couple days.

Am I sorry I did it.... well, if I wanted to live in the fantasy sure I am, but I let my feelings get in the way of reality and wanted to know the truth... now I Know... :oops: :oops:

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