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After all the philosophical analyses of the Astro/Cristal saga I had a thought as I sucked down another Zima and some nutritious chips and dip.
Once a chica establishes a novio relationship with her gringo, why do they insist on pressing the monetary demands exponentially to the point of termination of the relationship?
From my perspective, first, they would at least have to like the guy somewhat to go to the trouble to get something more than a one night stand going, otherwise, why not fake the orgasm, run out the clock, and haul ass back to the floor for the next customer. Assuming that the chica is attractive enough to be in constant demand, she would make more money at $100.00 per hour (non CRT rates) say 8 hours per night, five days per week, than most relationships would produce . Of course we all know, except in their wildest fantasies, that ain't gonna happen.
But, once they hook up in a relationship with a guy, why not play it smoothe for the long term and get a reasonable steady long term return similar to a good mutual fund , instead of immediately making more and more ridiculous demands for money after the first hit until the guy finally says Phuck it and walks away? They kill the golden goose and then have to start the hunt and the breakin all over again. How stupid. It would be much smarter and more productive to keep the demands small and reasonable and go for the long term and cultivate guys they can enjoy anyway.
So that's the question, why do chicas insist on getting more and more ridiculous with their requests for money until we blow them off instead of making their pursuit easier with pleasant reasonable relationships. Do they think that someday by acting that way they will hit one big score to make up for all the nice guys and steady help they blew off by going exponentially ballistic? If so, I think I have a few old lottery tickets I could sell them.
What say ye, bretheren of the pink snapper?

Goetz

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goetz, this could be the start of a good thread if we all fess up as we say in southern alabama. i had and have a wonderful relationship with an older tica, still 20 younger than me, widowed from an american, lived in the states for 20 years, an exec with a major firm, owns property here and in cr, has a car etc. yet, everytime im in sjo there is a crisis of some sort in her personal life that requires money. will not go into detail but some of them are down right inventive and very clever. to go into detail would probably blow my cover, pardon the pun, as some of my board member friends know of whom i speak and who knows who reads these things. again a good case for vip only board. but i degress. i have come to the conclusion that all ticas, regardless of age, socio economic status whatever are born to the hustle. no matter that they dont need the money, its a game to get it from any gringo they find and the more the better. this attitude has ruined what i thought was a wonderful relationship, and we are just friends now and it will never be the same as i have lost all interest. hell, she has a higher net worth than i do and still wants to hustle. so guys take the advice of an old, old monger, keep your hands off your pecker and keep them on your wallet, and wait for the next episode of the young and the restless tica style.

I have discussed this subject with a couple of the girls. These girls think that all the Gringos are filthy rich. So what is the big deal about giving some of the money you really don't need anyway to a girl in need of money? Right? Wrong...
They don't understand our mentality any more than we understand their mentality. I think the smartest chicas treat all the guys as nice as they can to develope repeat business. Many of these chicas are not particularly bright and simply just don't understand the best way to play the game.
I do agree that the best way to make the most money in the DR for the chicas is to look great, dress great, treat the gringo great, and make their time in the DR effective.

Ticas are from Venus and Gringos are from Earth !!

4Reel (lovem and leavem)

I've had a two and a half year relationship with a Columbiana that I met at Idem. We spend two or three days together each week. During the entire time I've known her, she has never asked me for anything .

She no longer works (at least not in any of the venues we all frequent). I would guess she probably has at least one other novia, but we have always been discreet about that.

I am her main source of income, but it has always been on my terms and has not by any means been exorbitant (usually less than $600/month). When I was pick-pocketed in SJ last year, she payed for my expenses for a couple weeks while credit and ATM cards were being replaced. Also cared for me daily after a recent hospitalization.

Although I've cultivated a good realtionship with her, she knows I see other girls and am not interested in anything more permanent. If she has a hidden agenda, it must be pretty subtle; if she doesn't, it means sometimes (even in this environment) people just enjoy each other.

My opinion and of course there are exceptions to everything:

1. Most of the full-time working girls are not educated.

2. They see things in black and white (and green).

3. Their future visions only consist of the next score except for their fantasies. I've seen girls talking about "how much they got" for a 1 hour tryst.

4. As King Costa mentioned, they think all Gringos are rich, and we are, compared to them. Afterall, don't we fly to Costa Rica and blow hundreds of dollars 2 or 3 (or more) times a year?

5. Guys come and go, the only constants for these girls are their niños and their families and the need to make money. They know there are no guarantees so they get what they can before it runs out. Also consider many of these girls have, somewhere in their past, been abused or at least taken advantage of by a male. It might have been an abusive father, a local "novio" or a customer, but most do have scars. Their perspective on men, especially customers, has jaded them somewhat.

6. In the Latin culture the female takes care of the male in the home but the male is the earner, thus he pays for everything. Since they often can't find a man in their own country to take care of them monetarily that leads them to the Gringos who will throw hundreds of dollars at them (money, shopping, braces, etc) for something they used to give away for free.

Think of it like this, you grew up poor, you quit school at the age of 14, you have a Ch*ld to feed, suddenly someone tells you that they will pay you more than you've ever earned in you life just for doing something you used to do for free. Suddenly you think you've hit the lottery and it will never run out.

In May I was introduced to a very sweet Columbiana in CR that has yet to ask for anything other than my time and attention.

Perhaps it is too soon to know the direction this will go. I'm back in San Jose in two weeks to investigate this turn of events further. I'll keep yall posted.

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One of the best posts I've ever seen about Latina thinking, period.

Used to fly in just to see my favorita, so kinda got a little inside scoop on some of the thinking, though Roxana never liked talk about her work.

She finished "preparatoria" at 16, so dropping out at 14 does not make much sence, but I'm sure it happens.

I'm definitelly not rich (work for the state), but do OK. Roxana now works in Jaco, and when I saw her six weeks ago, told me she goes back to the resort of Suenos at least three times a week. Tried to explain the difference between guys who can afford a $300,000 resort with a boat and me, but don't believe it ever sunk in. If you guys own / rent there, good for you, I took a wrong turn somewhere and fall well short of making six figures. Haven't given up, still looking for that better job .....

And the Black and White ..... working is "trabajo para mi," but of course "todos hombres son peros !!!!" While it was fun for quite some time, finally decided not to call her on my last two trip, and had a lot more fun. I miss the insight, the TLN, but it was just getting too hard.

EMK

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Flander wrote:



Has anyone reading this ever had the 'opportunity' to get to know any mother-daughter gringas, not in the biblical sense, but just as friends? Have you ever heard a momma gringa admit that she has always emphasized to her daughter(s) to go for the guy with the money? Yes, shocking but true! I don't know if this is a cultural (Latina) thing so much as a fact of life in the 'civilized' world.

When I was young (the neanderthal era) women were attracted to the big guys with the big club who could bring home something dead and good to eat. In this modern era, I think most modern women still like guys with big 'clubs', but money has become the great equalizer. If you have the money they have the time, Tica, gringa, whatever.

And here in the good old US of A, where we have such equitable civilized laws such as community property and no-fault divorce, if the 'true love' wanes and she managed to hook the guy with the money she's still gonna get the benjamins, and, as someone else said in this thread, that's what it's all about.

EMailKid wrote:



I can only speak to this as concerns Costa Rica am not familiar with the situation in Latin America or the other Central American countries.

Most who leave school do not do so because they do not want an education they do so because they can not afford to go to school. While public school may be free the cost of books, uniforms, transportation, etc is out of pocket and many families can not afford it. This is particularly true in large families so they concentrate on sending each Ch*ld to elementary school. The older Ch*ldren only continue their education if there is money available after paying the expenses for the primary education of the younger ones.

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[quote="Flander) so guys take the advice of an old, old monger, keep your hands off your pecker and keep them on your wallet, and wait for the next episode of the young and the restless tica style.[/quote]..........................................word's of wisdom,flander.

Way to go Flander... since making an impact on the board from the grave

Kudos to Joltin Joe for having the good sense to read old posts. Wisdom is wisdom no matter what date it was written on. Rest in Peace Flander.

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Guys,

Do you really believe the girls who claim they need the money to pay school?

Well, I DON"T.. maybe I am being a bit hard on them but to be honest, I find it hard to believe. I guess is just another excuse for grngos to feel sorry about them and take them for the Hr or TLN.

I am sure there are exceptions, but not all of them are completely true. If you want to go school or college you can find a decent pay job that will help. College can be a bit expensice here as it is in US, but still can find something. Another thing is that, if you are going to college it means you have higher educaction level, (above many working girls) and I have never been able to stablish a smart/good conversation with any working girl. On the other hand, there are girls making more money than us on a montly basis and if you ask around many don't own a thing. We all know supporting a family on your own is not easy, but sometimes you should think with your head and not with your ass, specially when you are demanding $100 per session or begging for money on letters.

My two cents in a long while

Mente

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Of course, you'd be very hard pressed to find any real scholars at the HDR/BM. I suspect that for any of the PROS that claim to need money for school AT BEST they're more likely referring to one of the vocational type post secondary schools around SJ rather than a real university. For example, there are plenty of schools that teach secretarial skills or ones that teach english so that graduates can get a job somewhere in the tourism industry. Even though in effect the bar-girls already have such a job in the "hospitality industry", better english skills can certainly help them in their current line of work as well as opening up greater possibilities of finding work in hotels and such once they become a little too old or weathered to ply the trade with their bodies. And if they're smart they should realize that will happen to all of them sooner rather than later. Others may not want to wait until it even gets that far but want to leverage their income into some usable skill so they can get out of the bar even sooner. I don't know if she took any special English classes but Wanda at the Sportsmen's is a good example of a "working-girl" who successfully made the transition. You have to respect any girl that is smart enough to realize the gravy train won't last for ever and who does not hold out tricking some gringo into marrying her as her only salvation.

OTOH, there are also plenty of semi-pros and non-pros that actually university or vocational school students who either occasionally turn a trick for the express purpose of underwriting their education or who would not be adverse to the idea of a little scholarship money in appreciation of their companionship.

That said would I just give some chica money for her "tuition". Not on your life. First of all, as Mente pointed out many regular ticas somehow manage to squeeze out the funds to go to such schools that have no where near the income level of the pro chicas. But lets suppose that she has lots of other personal emergencies in her life, a sick mama, daycare for her K*ds, bail money for her brother and who knows what else and simply does not have any money left over for her schooling. This is what I MIGHT do. I'd say "show me the bill from your school". No bill? GONG, sorry no money. "You've got the bill?" "Okay let me go down with you and you can show off the place to me." No show, no dinero. How do you know its not some scam place? I'd want to check it out. Okay, you're there and it all looks on the up and up, then make a tuition INSTALLMENT directly to the school. No cash goes to the chica intended for tuition that could end up being spent on something else. And I wouldn't pay the whole thing or pay it all at once. I'd say "you pay for a portion of it so that you're invested in it and lets see how long you stick with it and next time I come down I'll make another contribution." Essentially, it would be like Astro's paying for braces. There is effectively a quid pro quo with money going out only so long as you are down there and getting some sort of return on your investment from your novia and the spigot can be turned off at any time if the relationship sours.