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 Post subject: Dr. Chen Revisited
PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 11:48 pm 
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Sorry to report that my $80 root canal went south today. Cost to repair- $1325 plus a triple bridge for $3K if I do it here.
Endo said it was a piss poor job.

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 1:38 am 
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Dr. Chen?????

Piss poor job??

Please tell me more!!!!

Please excuse my use of your name Scumbag, but that Scumbag-Airline... AA.com has a deal for $199.00 RT out of MIA today....are you close to FLA.?????

BUT BE AWARE THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO USE A CARRY-ON...

American Airlines says it will start charging for checked bags in U.S.


By the A.M. Costa Rica staff
http://www.amcostarica.com/

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American Airlines said Wednesday that it would charge passengers $15 each way for the first checked bag on round trip flights and later within the continental United States, to Canada and to U.S. territories like Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin islands. The fees will be assessed at checkin for passengers who purchase their tickets June 15 and after.


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Itinerary
AMERICAN AIRLINES 971 MIA Miami May 28, 2008
10:35 AM SJO San Jose May 28, 2008
11:20 AM AB6

AMERICAN AIRLINES 1700 SJO San Jose Jun 03, 2008
06:55 AM MIA Miami Jun 03, 2008
11:45 AM AB6

Fare Summary>>>>Average Fare per Person - 138.00 USD
Passenger Type Used in Pricing Fare per Person Additional Taxes and Fees per Person Total Price
1 Adult 138.00 USD 61.00 USD 199.00 USD
Total Price 199.00 USD


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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:29 am 
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the reason I ask, is my filling from the last trip came out last week...sic

Irish Drifter knows the place like it was his own backyard..

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...could be because he lives there...anyway

ID..any suggestions


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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:57 am 
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I had a root canal on a molar done by Dr. Robert Sanchez [referred to me by Dr. Chen] and 2 porcelain crowns done by Dr. Chen, along with a whitening, for a grand total of $530. This was done in October 07. So far, I'm pleased with everything I had done. 8)

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:23 pm 
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That is what I mean. all of my crowns where done by the Doc, and I am more then pleased... as far as the filling coming out..it happens...

No need to jump ship.....besides, it gives me an excuse to return to San Jose...


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Yeah.....Don't think you can't have problems with the work you have done by U.S. dentists. I've had lots of problems with dental work done by mine........and to add insult to injury, it cost 4 times as much. :(


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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:04 pm 
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Zebra wrote:
I had a root canal on a molar done by Dr. Robert Sanchez [referred to me by Dr. Chen] and 2 porcelain crowns done by Dr. Chen, along with a whitening, for a grand total of $530. This was done in October 07. So far, I'm pleased with everything I had done. 8)

Zebra


How was the whitening? I am a heavy soda drinker and over the years my teeth are not as pearly as they once were. Is it laser or the bleaching?
I was hoping for the laser, as it is supposed to be easier and faster.


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Mr,

It was the bleaching type. I think it was about five bleaching sessions that lasted about one hour each. I prabably wouldn't do it again, as the results were not all that good. Laser or the ZOOM [maybe that is laser??] is prabably the way to go. I think the charge for the bleaching was about $80, which also included a cleaning. Couldn't complain, because my U.S. dentist charges more than that for just a cleaning.

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Zebra’s right, I paid a lot to my local dentist, and most of the work failed. The finale straw was two of four implants fell out at about the same time. The Doctor wanted about 4 G’s to do it again…telling me what I deal I was getting…Pissed, a friend of mine said “Go to Costa Rica…that was 9 implants ago…
If I did the math I guess. 14-15 G’s but its worth having all you phucking teeth…

the doctor in the states all ready had made that much off of me and I still need implants.....

I started with …Dr, C @ Prisma Dental and he did a bang up job for $350...then 550...the last time I was there he wanted750 per implant, but that is not the crown or the crown butment....1500 last time...also as time went on the price kept going up for the little things…x-rays-fillings-cleaning...then ID told me about Dr. Chen and have been pleased ever since.


Here is one of the cheap places here in SF




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Price List for Dental Treatment
Filling
Case Price (Baht)
Amalgam 400 Baht/Surface •1
Composite 500 Baht/Surface •2
Spacing Filling 1,500-2,000 Baht/Space
Veneer Facing 2,000 Baht
** Local Anesthesia 100 Baht/Added

Surgery
Case Price (Baht)
Extraction 400-800 Bth
Impact Tooth (Wisdom tooth) 1,500 – 4,000 Bth
Root Resection 1,500 - 2,000 Bth
Implant + Crown 50,000 – 65,000 Bth

Root Canal Treatment
Case Price (Baht)
Anterior tooth 4,000 Baht
Posterior tooth
• Bicuspid 3,500-5,000 Baht
• Molar 5,000 – 6,000 Baht
Retreat 1,200 Baht/Added

Cleaning
Case Price (Baht)
Cleaning 500-800 Baht

Prosthodontics
Case Price (Baht)
Crown 6,000-12,000 Baht •3
Inlay, Onlay
• Porcelain 6,000-8,000 Baht •3
• Metal 6,000 -10,000 Baht •3
Temporary plate 1,200 Baht •4
Removable Partial Denture 7,000-12,000 Baht
Removable Bridge 3,000 – 4,000 Baht
Full Denture
• Plastic 12,000 -14,000 Baht
• Metal 15,000-20,000 Baht

Pedodontics
Case Price (Baht)
Extraction 400 Baht
Prophylaxis + Fluoride Application 400 -600 Baht
Sealant 350-400 Baht
Filling 500 – 1,000 Baht
Pulpotomy 800 – 1,000 Baht
Pulpectomy 1,200 – 1,500 Baht
Stainless Steel Crown 1,000 - 1,200 Baht
Space Maintainer 2,000 – 2,500 Baht
** Local Anesthesia + Rubber dam 200 Baht/Added

Orthodontics
Case Price (Baht)
Impression, Photo and Treatment Plan 1,000 Baht
Orthodontic treatment 38,000 - 40,000 Baht
Ceramic Bracket 6,000 Baht extra for each arch
Damon System 50,000 Baht
Retainer 2,000 Baht
Removable Plate 3,000 – 3,500 Baht
• Adjustment 500 Baht/Visit

Bleaching
Case Price (Baht)
Home Bleaching 6,000 – 7,000 Baht
In Office Bleaching 8,000 Baht •5
Laser Bleaching 12,000 Baht •5

Others
Case Price (Baht)
X-Ray 100 Baht/Film
Sterilization 50 Baht/Visit

•1 (not more than 1,000 Bth)
•2 (not more than 1,500 Bth)
•3 (Depend on Material)
•4 (Add 400 Bth for eack extra tooth)
•5 (1 hour Bleeching)


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:20 pm 
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I had read my pal Scuba's bad review of Dr. Chen, but I thought like Zebra. A bad experience can probably happen with any dentist or other professional from time to time. With Dr. Chen there had been all these glowing reviews plus I figured I was having done was replacing an old filling that had come out. How badly could anyone screw that up. Well, I was wrong.

The man was certainly nice and courtly enough, though he did have some nervous mannerisms that I felt were unusual. But while he might have spoken in a professional manner I was not at all impressed with what he did or rather didn't do for me.

First, I should explain my background. I took lousy care of my teeth as youth - irregular brushing and lots of soda pop that continues to this day. As a result I have lots of cavities and lots of fillings all of which have had to be replaced over the years. My back teeth actually have more fillings than original teeth to the point that with any more fillings and they will probably have to be crowned. In fact, when one of the fillings on my left rear molar came out a few weeks ago I half suspected that time had come. It was with that that I made my appointment with Dr. Chen and was hoping for the best.

He barely looked at my mouth, barely drilled at all, barely tamped done on what little filling he put in my tooth, didn't take any x-rays, or put in any of those little carbon paper strips to see if what he put in was grinding improperly against my other teeth. But at least I walked away with my original tooth still more or less intact. Well, only 3 and a half days later on the plane back to the states his filling came loose. With all my other fillings that had NEVER happened with a new filling. But at least I only wasted $90 for my visit to Dr. Chen

So, as soon as I got back to the US, I made an appointment with a local dentist. They took what seemed like over 2 dozen x-rays (for the special price of only $59). They also explained what I had already heard from my old dentist - at some point my rear teeth will be so shot that I won't be able to simply re-fill them but will have to get them crowned. I was hoping that day would be put off but they also explained why they puts me at greater risk.

Old fillings corrode, which causing seepage and potential cavities or weakening of the tooth structure under the fillings. that in turn can cause the filling to buckle and come loose all at once, which is what happened to my old filling. Already having crowned teeth above them, which are harder material, also may have contributed to their coming loose too. Worse, the filling might NOT have come loose but continued to rot deeper and deeper down into the tooth to the point that not only would I have needed to have my tooth crowned but I would have also needed an expensive root canal. The dentist pointed out to me so I could see for myself where the "rotting" was taking place under Dr Chen's filling. If Dr. chen had taken an x-ray he'd have seen it too. Fortunately, there is no rotting yet under my other molars which also have extensive old fillings but I'm not going to wait until they do or until my fillings suddenly come out and I have to get my crowns done right away and thus have to go with a more expensive US dentist as I ultimately had to do with that tooth.

Its not that I've given up on all CR dentists, just Dr. Chen. Nor am I saying that bad dentists are confined to CR. The US certainly has its share. What I'm saying is that one should choose their dentists carefully and not base it just on saving a little money. One's dental health is much more important than that. The lesson I learned from this is that just because you walk out of the dentist and your smile looks nice at that moment (or that he was painless or polite) doesn't mean the dentist did a good job. It may not happen in 3.5 days or even a year, but the foundation for future trouble may have been laid which will show up years later but also years before they should have. I'm glad some of you guys are happy with Dr. Chen. I hope he really did do as good a job as you THINK he did. However, I for one am never going back to him.


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Unfortunately I have been receiving some information concerning Dr. Chen that is very disturbing.

Two individuals who have been going to Dr. Chen before I did, and indeed recommended him to me, reported some concerns so serious on their last visit that they have stopped going to him.

The first thought that Dr. Chen acted somewhat confused and not really aware of what he was doing.

The second gentleman felt that Dr. Chen was having trouble controlling his hand movements and might be showing earl signs of Parkinson disease.

I would suggest that everyone be very cautious if they choose to see Dr. Chen. I reluctantly have to withdraw my recommendation of using his services.

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Icantstayaway wrote:

I would say that Dr Chen is on the low scale.

I have an appointment this morning with another dentist in Paseo Colon, Dr. Susanah Zomer and Alejandro Pinchanski this morning. I went there last week for a cleaning and they didn't seem too impressed with the two teeth the Dr. Chen worked on. The color of the filling does not match my natural tooth. I am going to have xrays done and get them to change the Yellow filling to a white one that matches.

There office is 100% modern. They have the camera so you can see what they want to show you on a monitor.

Ill write more later on what my xrays say and I'll ask them about veeners.

They did all the work on a Friends mouth and she was very happy.


The end result was they showed me on an xray and with a camera the rear tooth that Dr. Chen worked on had a small cavity in the rear that he did not address and the filling he did do was on top of a cavity.

They re-did the work.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:35 pm 
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Dr. Chen?????

Piss poor job??

Please tell me more!!!!

Please excuse my use of your name Scumbag, but that Scumbag-Airline... AA.com has a deal for $199.00 RT out of MIA today....are you close to FLA.?????

BUT BE AWARE THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO USE A CARRY-ON...

American Airlines says it will start charging for checked bags in U.S.


By the A.M. Costa Rica staff

According to the counter crew at AA in SJO, Intenational flights do no apply the checked bag charges for international flights. Will question same in MIA and FLL outbound.

Sorry to hear of Dr Chen's challenges.
http://www.amcostarica.com/

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American Airlines said Wednesday that it would charge passengers $15 each way for the first checked bag on round trip flights and later within the continental United States, to Canada and to U.S. territories like Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin islands. The fees will be assessed at checkin for passengers who purchase their tickets June 15 and after.


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Itinerary
AMERICAN AIRLINES 971 MIA Miami May 28, 2008
10:35 AM SJO San Jose May 28, 2008
11:20 AM AB6

AMERICAN AIRLINES 1700 SJO San Jose Jun 03, 2008
06:55 AM MIA Miami Jun 03, 2008
11:45 AM AB6

Fare Summary>>>>Average Fare per Person - 138.00 USD
Passenger Type Used in Pricing Fare per Person Additional Taxes and Fees per Person Total Price
1 Adult 138.00 USD 61.00 USD 199.00 USD
Total Price 199.00 USD


And before you wonder where I've been ....think of poor PARIS & Iggy....All I can say is.......Thank God for early release.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k66epna2Sss&


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:58 am 
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Root canals do fail but only 6% of the time if there was no infection beforehand, more like 15% if infected at the time of the RC. I have a possible RC failure and have performed extensive research on it and the possible remediations.

I concluded to go straight to an implant and don't spend time, money, pain etc. on a re-treatment as success rate is not optimal, costs extensive and could also require crown lengthening which is both expensive and compromises jaw bone structural integrity not to mention painful and disruptive. That is very important if you ever decide to go to an implant after that!!!!!!!! May make it more difficult then to do an implant if the RC re-treat fails which is higher failure rate than 1st go around.

THE BEST THING I FOUND IN ALL THIS RESEARCH IS A STUDY I FOUND FROM THE U. OF PENN. WHICH I POSTED A COUPLE MONTHS BACK. I SAYS THAT EVEN THOUGH AN X-RAY SAYS THE RC HAS FAILED SO LONG AS THERE IS NOT PAIN IT DOESN'T REQUIRE RE-TREAT. Just stating what the report said but good enough for me to decide to monitor it until absolute necessary. All dentists IMHO are evil and try to scare you into the next treatment. My RC tooth didn't even need it when I went in but the crown failed because I think she drilled it down to much intentionally on purpose when I didn't even have any pain B4 hand. The evil dentist tricked me into a Crown which turned into a RC and now a possible RC failure!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:17 am 
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Yeah.....Don't think you can't have problems with the work you have done by U.S. dentists. I've had lots of problems with dental work done by mine........and to add insult to injury, it cost 4 times as much.


I went to my local dentist about a month ago to have the filling that Dr. Chen had fixed refilled with a resin...

Cost.... $200.00 for visit-cleaning-Xray-
$325.00 to fill the tooth with a resin.


That was at the first of the month.. About a week ago, the filling formed a little hole on the back of the tooth.. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I called Dr. Crook and his asst: informed me that the tooth really needed a root canal and a crown, and that the filling may or may not hold.

WHAT SH*T...... :x

Now the game plan was to return to Dr. Chen in Aug. and have the root canal and crown...... But I just not sure who to see anymore.

I paid Dr. Chen either C10,000 or C20,000 colons for the filling, cleaning and xray....that would be about $40.00 bucks tops...Then I add what Dr. Crook charged me for... $525.00

So I have about $600.00 bucks in a tooth that still needs to be addressed...

Then I read this:
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Worse, the filling might NOT have come loose but continued to rot deeper and deeper down into the tooth to the point that not only would I have needed to have my tooth crowned but I would have also needed an expensive root canal.


I am up for change, please is the dentist in Paseo Colon, Dr. Susanah Zomer and Alejandro Pinchanski are they close to the SL and do you have directions... ????

Your help is greatly appreciated in any and all suggestions

. Thanks


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