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 Post subject: Hard-wired To Wait....
PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:06 pm 
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There's an old saying that women decide when, and men decide how. I always thought there was wisdom there, which is why I've remembered it all these years. After being on the planet for a half-century, I believe it to be true.

Women, simply put, do not act whimsically on their sexual desires. How they can be so disciplined is a thing of beauty in its own right, although that doesn't stop me from being perplexed. Women can take it slow. That's not to say they won't deviate if just the right opportunity presents itself but as a rule, especially if they really like you and see potential for something a little more substantial, women will always make you wait a little longer than is pleasant. Sort of makes you loosen your tie with annoyance.

Women take intimacy seriously, especially the 25-35 crowd. It's not a game or "experience" as in "gfe." 18-24 y.o.'s are good sport phucking but at my age, getting to that next level of not just beauty, but also a challenging and sexy female mind, requires an "older" young woman. By then they've learned how to keep a man's interest with fierce coolness.

Women will risk losing you over consummating prematurely, a relationship they deem worthy. They will take the time they need, whether to lose 5 lbs before you see them naked or to pass a course they're taking after work. They'll likely drop hints along the way during this cat and mouse ritual that can be tantalizing, letting you know they're going to phuck your brains out, but on their timetable. It may be as simple as her telling you that she recently started back at the gym, or that she stayed at a girlfriend's last Saturday night after clubbing, just to let you know she can make arrangements for her Ch*ld and you could be next for an over-nighter. Or she won't quickly return your calls but when she does, recalls vividly, details of things you said or did. Or you might be on your way out of town and want to see her even for a drink before you go, but she'll say no, when you return. It's good business, because guys often lose interest if it's a quick jump in the hay.

Women assess pretty quickly if they can see themselves naked in your arms. Guys do as well, but that's where the similarity ends. Men immediately want to act on it, for fear it (she) will get away. Women have all the time in the world, and the smart ones throw you just enough crumbs to keep you guessing. Your aggravation is secondary to their instincts, hard-wired by evolution.

It's not easy to keep a man's attention, but the smart women have figured out how. The "nice" smart women do it with grace that, in itself, is alluring. I'm enjoying this phase right now with a 29-y.o. nica here at home. She told me to have a nice trip to Rio and will see me when I return. I said come over for just an hour tonight, the eve of my trip. She said no, when I return.

I loosened my tie.


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 Post subject: Wisdom here
PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:50 am 
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Learn from this post my brothers. Jazz speaks the truth. And his logic should be applied globally, not just relevant to Costa Rica.

Es verdad Jazz. Mucho gracias for your post.

Pura vida,

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:08 am 
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For women relationships are rarely if EVER about sex. Why? Because any woman of even average looks can get ANY man into the sack. That isn't the challenge for them. They already know that they win that game. For them you have to have something unique to yourself to get the attraction. Yes, of course, they can wait. Why? Because they know they can satisfy the sexual desire at any time. They want intimacy. They want attention and to feel special. It's impossible to prove to a woman that you love her by throwing her in the sack. She can get that anywhere. Always be confident..bordering on arrogant. From all the women I have ever spoken with in my life that is a huge turn on for them. More so than looks (which actually rank very low on the totem pole) or money. But, yes Jazz, I understand your feeling. It's a chess game.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:49 pm 
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Great (old) post Jazz,
A wise man recently told me to quit trying to understand women, just accept them as they are. :wink:

Men and women are definitely in different "time zones" when it comes to relationships. We want to jump in, and think this time things will go smoothly. She is in no hurry and will go at her pace, actually seriously considers the possible future heartache, and thrives on the emotional highs and lows- that drive us crazy.

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For them you have to have something unique to yourself to get the attraction.
Yes, the attraction she feels is what's important to her, and although maybe flattering-our attraction to her really doesn't matter much to her. And your right on Dapanz about confidence, I recall a poll where women picked confidence #1 above all other traits, even looks.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:04 am 
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Nice job Jazz, I totally agree.
I think one way to be confident and keep a level playing field is to act like you can take it or leave it. Not only is it a position of confidence, it can totally throw them off their game because she knows she can get almost any guy in bed. These days, it is easier to do this for me.
Also, if I am really interested in a girl, like as a prospective relationship, I actually will make myself not sleep with her, and avoid it... for a while... seems to help set the right tone.
In the end, the more I try to figure them out, the less I understand.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:21 am 
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All so true but once a woman makes her mind up that you are the one lookout because they move quickly then & get ruthless is my experience! The dance is great but is it worth the end result? This is why I like it when a woman decides to give herself to you for money as it is more predictable type of behavior to me & as long as they give it all as once aroused they loose all form of control which they do in the land of simplicity. Once everyone is fulfilled you awake back to reality & go on down the road not getting in each others way. One girl friend I had years ago (gringa) had great control until touched then she was as aggressive as I. Her main defense was to keep me out of reach so to speak as she knew if to close she lost the edge she had over me.

I never had trouble getting one to like me I just had trouble getting away from them once they did. This is the most dangerous part of a relationship to me because many will destroy themselves to destroy what they can't have. Yes money can be a great thing or the root of all evil depends how you use this tool.

I agree with King here about this:[/quote]I think one way to be confident and keep a level playing field is to act like you can take it or leave it. Not only is it a position of confidence, it can totally throw them off their game because she knows she can get almost any guy in bed. [quote]

This is one reason I concentrated on business so much (win-win). They all like success in their lives plus they could see I was in control of my life & this always gave me a good position with them. I really don't mean this in an arrogant way but they knew I could do what I wanted & it made it a challenge for them & I did exactly what I wanted which my sound selfish but we only have one life so I fly south more than ever. This may sound ugly but I think it is realistic it was used or be used & many of these I got to know I could see right through. I guess in their book I used them before they could use me no guarantees when you start something. I like the temporary thing better as I don't have to worry about any damage control. The less they know the better for me & this is accomplish much easier where life is simple.

Zipp


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:46 pm 
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Great post Jazz. Ive got a couple of married buddies that participate in the cat mice ritual, once the cat/gringa bitch, has caught the mouse/poor dude , she will toy with it, but she wont kill it because she wont have anything to play with.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:58 pm 
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Good thoughts Jazz. I think for me it usually comes down to "it's about the HUNT...not the KILL". I think a lot of guys in CR get bored with the Delrey game because it is too calculating and easy. It comes down to a business negotiation...not "sport". From what I've read about Rio and other mongering places some of you guys have time and money to pursue...it is not quite so overt.

Personally, I have always found sex more exciting when i had to work at "getting together". The smart woman knows not to be too easy even with the guy they are attracted to. They enjoy the game also...and in the end...they want to be "dominated" by us...whey THEY think it's time 8) . Of course, right now I'm 17 days in gringaland, and it's a much more expensive sophisticated hunt from here...and quite sad to be honest. Cant wait to get home to CR...


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:57 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:04 pm 
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Masterful post, JM. Thanks for bringing it back, Paco. I'd read it on your links before, but now I want my marker on it, so I can be sure to find it again.

Seems, in market terms, all the playing they do is to raise their price that you'll eventually pay (unless you walk out of the shop), or , if this is a great poker game, then the point is to outbluff you and get you to bet more than your cards can recover... You have to learn to bluff with the best of 'em. "Love" -- yeah, right!


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