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 Post subject: Re: Banking Questions
PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:44 am 
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To my misfortune, I have a little experience banking in this country. Here are some issues I feel you should be made aware.

1. Unless you hold a CR passport or are a legal resident, you cannot get a personal account at a CR bank.

2. If not a CR resident, you need to incorporate.

3. Banks are a disaster. Unlike a US bank where they will give you a checklist of all that is required, here each week they will tell you, you need another piece of paper or a lawyers stamp. Next week repeat. Next week repeat. Next week repeat. It took me six weeks after sitting down with the Bank branch manager of the Guadalupe Citibank to get the account opened, all with my lawyer and the branch manager getting a cut.

4. Once the account is opened, since nothing here is mailed, one week you will get the checkbook, next week the debit card, next week the pin number. Each week, I would stand on line for an hour. One week, they told me that my checkbook was in the Tibas branch after being in line for an hour. Went to Tibas, waited in line an hour and they said no it is in the Guadalupe branch. I wait in line at Guadalupe for another hour and am told yes its right here in the desk waiting for you. Another day lost standing in line and drooling over myself with 60 other Ticos.

5. Once the account is set up, no direction or password is supplied for access. You would have to wait in line an hour to request it, come back in a week and wait in hour on line to receive that information. The passwords for the colones and dollar accounts would change very often to a new 40 digit (exaggeration) password. If you get it your account gets frozen and you wait on line two more times for an hour each time.

6. I would wire to Citibank NY. Citi would wire to Citi CR. Every wire $20 would be deducted for a US wire and then another $20 would disappear. There was never a record of the second $20 missing. Nowhere, on any statement, would this $20 discrepancy be listed. No one at Citibank could tell me where the $20 went or who took it. I understand the cost of a wire transfer but, it should show up somewhere as a fee instead of just disappearing.

7. I would wire out of the Citi CR accounts to other CR businesses (not back to the states). I would wait in line an hour to do it. Nobody could supply direction to wire on line. They wanted me to come back to the branch and stand in line for an hour for each wire and fill out 40 pieces of paper. I needed to stand on line for another hour to get a manager to supply direction for on line wires.

8. Moving money from my dollar account to my colone account and visa versa resulted in outrageous fees.

9. My ath card worked for 3 weeks. Then the Citibank ath machine stopped recognizing my pin. The ath machines at citi all seem to be in the branch offices and can only be accessed when the branch is open. Stand in line out front, take your hat off, pull the metal out of your pocket, and the machine doesn’t work.

10. I hated Citibank but it was too much of a pain in the ass to open an account with another bank. The last straw came when I had 2 checks in colones from another business, to deposit in my colone account. Total maybe $300. I stood in line for an hour and 15 minutes. Got to the front and the teller said there is a problem. She talked to the manager and said I have to get on line and speak to an account representative. I pull the ticket. 2 hours later my number is called and I go to the front. What is the problem with my checks or account? The account rep looks my account up, shrugs her shoulders and goes back to the same manager who told me to talk to an account rep. She comes back to me and says there is no problem, you can deposit the checks. Ok, I say, lets deposit the checks. She looks at me and tells me in order to make a deposit, I have to get back on the other line that I started on three hours ago. I almost throttled her!!! I started cursing in English, screaming close my accounts NOW!!!!!!!!!!! I waited another half an hour for her to get the paperwork in order and instead of closing the accounts, I walked out the door when she asked me to sign here and here and here and here, etc. I let accounts go dormant.

11. I went to Scotiabank next and applied for an account. I was interviewed by an account rep who told me that everything seemed fine. She needed her bosses approval and we could open up the accounts at the end of the week. She would contact me in two days. Three days later, I have not heard from. I send her an email. No response. Two days later I send her another email. No response. Third time might be the charm. I send her another email. No response. Next bank.

12. I hear good things about Cathay bank. I send their customer service an email, requesting a business account. No response.

13. I give up! I avoid all banking in CR. I move money down $500 at a time using ATM machines. If I need $3,000, I go to ATM machines everyday for a week. I wire a couple of times a month from the US, to other businesses accounts. I am at peace.

I advise banking in Panama.


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 Post subject: Re: Banking Questions
PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:40 pm 
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1. Unless you hold a CR passport or are a legal resident, you cannot get a personal account at a CR bank.


This is not true. I opened 2 accounts, got a pin and an ATM card in an hour.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:44 am 
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Whitecat,

Do you hold another Central American Passport? Maybe things have changed since I opened my accounts, but are you saying you were able to walk into a CR bank with a North American or European passport and no CR residency or cedula, and open up personal accounts in one hour????


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:34 am 
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Mickymoose wrote:
Whitecat,

Do you hold another Central American Passport? Maybe things have changed since I opened my accounts, but are you saying you were able to walk into a CR bank with a North American or European passport and no CR residency or cedula, and open up personal accounts in one hour????


I do not know what time frame you had your banking experience. I opened a dollar account and a colones account with debits cards in 2003 at Banco National. I was not a resident and had not yet applied for residency. I do not remember exactly how long the process took but it was certainly no more then an hour. Non residents can open an account at BN now with a letter from ARCR so that would make it appear that residency is not a requirement.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:32 am 
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I went through my banking experience 2 years ago.

I am greatly surprised that Costa Rica is allowing people to open bank accounts without an identification number that allows someone to work, reside or do business in that country.

Someone can open a bank account without the Republic issuing an identification number registered with the Government? They are allowed to withdraw, deposit, and wire money without a Costa Rica Tax identification number?

It would be one thing if the identity of the account holder is not reported back to the country of origin, but a bank being allowed to let an individual to conduct financial business without reporting their identity and tax responsibilities to the Republic seems quite surprising to me.

That's better than an old Swiss numbered account before they were required to report to the Swiss government.

All that is required is a letter from a foreign residency organization and legal residency is not required?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:23 pm 
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Mickymoose wrote:
I went through my banking experience 2 years ago.

I am greatly surprised that Costa Rica is allowing people to open bank accounts without an identification number that allows someone to work, reside or do business in that country.

Someone can open a bank account without the Republic issuing an identification number registered with the Government? They are allowed to withdraw, deposit, and wire money without a Costa Rica Tax identification number?

It would be one thing if the identity of the account holder is not reported back to the country of origin, but a bank being allowed to let an individual to conduct financial business without reporting their identity and tax responsibilities to the Republic seems quite surprising to me.

That's better than an old Swiss numbered account before they were required to report to the Swiss government. Pay a car, buy property and do any number of things in CR and they will use your passport number on the document unless you establish residency and get a cedula.

All that is required is a letter from a foreign residency organization and legal residency is not required?


Banks like most businesses that require identification accept your passport. Most gringos initial drivers license have their passport number as the their DL number and keep that unless they get residency and get a cedula number. Buy a car, buy property or do any number of things and if you do not have a cedula they will use your passport number as your identification number.

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 Post subject: Re: Banking Questions
PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:24 pm 
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Irish Drifter wrote:
Mickymoose wrote:
I went through my banking experience 2 years ago.

I am greatly surprised that Costa Rica is allowing people to open bank accounts without an identification number that allows someone to work, reside or do business in that country.

Someone can open a bank account without the Republic issuing an identification number registered with the Government? They are allowed to withdraw, deposit, and wire money without a Costa Rica Tax identification number?

It would be one thing if the identity of the account holder is not reported back to the country of origin, but a bank being allowed to let an individual to conduct financial business without reporting their identity and tax responsibilities to the Republic seems quite surprising to me.

That's better than an old Swiss numbered account before they were required to report to the Swiss government. Pay a car, buy property and do any number of things in CR and they will use your passport number on the document unless you establish residency and get a cedula.

All that is required is a letter from a foreign residency organization and legal residency is not required?


Banks like most businesses that require identification accept your passport. Most gringos initial drivers license have their passport number as the their DL number and keep that unless they get residency and get a cedula number. Buy a car, buy property or do any number of things and if you do not have a cedula they will use your passport number as your identification number.



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:53 pm 
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Reltih_floda, CvCap, your colors are showing. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: Banking Questions
PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:29 pm 
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You got it 911 Driver. Every additional post he makes just confirms that he and CVCap are one and the same.

Anyone doubt that?

Just go back and look at CVCap's posts and then Hangman's posts and I think you will come to same conclusion.

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