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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:54 pm 
Masters Degree in Mongering!

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30,000 colones all this week at Dray for lovely sweet girls was no problem.

TDN I didn't ask my snoring would keep them awake.

PuraVida (till Wed when I am back in Florida) :cry: .


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:30 pm 
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I still say we should be happy that some gringos are paying $100 or even more. The girls know that WE are their bread and butter. I guarantee you many girls would mourn the loss of Vegas Bob and his 25,000 colones 4 times per week than some poor once per year tourist and his cien.

All those hot Columbians would be at Elite in Panama or back at home were it not for the occasional bonehead. Likewise, they wouldn't be there without the steady flow of moderate earnings from this prolific group.

Please do not hand out cards.

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Seems like I spend half my life drinking, gambling, and mongering. The other half... I waste.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:06 am 
PHD From Del Rey University!

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Slickwings,

I agree with you. Here is one of my old posts I deleted & think it pertains to yours:

Look I see allot of guys bitching about who pays what & don't screw it up for me. I am thinking REALLY. Most guys with real money will just pay for it in the states & pay BIG. The men I see for the most part in CR are not so called HIGH ROLLERS they seem to be self proclaimed big shots living in a cheap country but really checkout their credentials. Would anybody that is a BILL GATES be in the DelRey? Maybe but I bet they don't hang around all day like me they pay & get the show on the road. Their time is way more important than $1000 is.

My point is not many guys are really going to go to over board I doubt!
We are lucky many do spend way too much. These stories spread like wildfire & bring us more talent than we can deal with in a pinpoint place.
Much more efficient don't you think? These stories of riches make the world & CICHAS get around. Many would not come out if not for this.

It is up to our skills to cherry pick out of this group. Think if we had to run all around San Jose to find this it would take forever. These big spenders have done us a big favor so here is a big thanks to who ever you are!

I am certainly a nobody & real happy about it. I get everything I need at a good price (may have to work harder than some but I except this gladly).

The hard core ones do not look or waste time on me they know who I am & what I have come for just like I know their game & it is all a big game.
The guys that get mad are looking at it to serious not as a game! Some of the working Chicas get mad at me because I will not talk to them but why give them hope & waste my time? They are mad because they know I have scratched them forever off my list & they want on it! They are the sales person here I am the buyer!!

I try to keep a very simple reputation ( THE KISS FORMULA). It works for me. Have over heard the CHICAS saying. Hope he buys me I have heard he is a goodtime & never stiffs the girls.

One point VEGA BOB made which I found so true. He talked about the girls changing their appearance & are they good at it. Almost made a few mistakes with Chicas I have scratched off.

Zippy

I have to agree with C. R. Marcos :My brain just won't accept the idea of sending money to a working girl.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:36 pm 
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The women are no different than any other product in Costa Rica. Some people pay sticker prices and others pay wholesale prices, for exact same product. Personally, if the going price was $50, I would work to get Chicas at $25, and other would pay $75. As much as everyone would love to believe all men are equal in the BM as long as you have cash, that just isn't true. What $100 get one monger, it may get much more for another.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:38 pm 
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Yes, it is true all men are not created equal, weather it be charm, cash, looks or whatever the chica deems appealing.

For instance, I was at the BM this morning around 11 a.m sitting there drinking a coffee and I could not help but over hear (o.k. I was being nosy) a conversation between a young chica and an older gentleman. She stated $100 and he didn't even blink and said "let's go" I almost spit my coffee out on the floor because he did not even try to negotiate. :x A younger gentleman comes up to her friend after they had left and he got her for 25,000 colones, with very little effort. :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:56 pm 
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I haven't chimed in here yet, but figure its time to add my dos colones.

I think creating a No Cien card would be worthwhile if for no other reason than to stir up an interesting reaction amongst the chicas, but then I'm just a natural born trouble maker.

It definitely should not mention CRT anywhere on it. No need to bring this site in to the resulting storm. Also no need to further advertise our presence to the chicas. Do some or many of them already know about us somewhat? Sure. Do they come here? Maybe some but probably not. Does it really matter? Not to me, I think it might be interesting to get their side of things added to the mix. But I understand many members feel differently and have to respect their wishes.

Will this make any difference on the going rates at the DR? Probably not, but it is much more likely to than our just preaching to the choir here and any of the small minority of CR visitors that happen to find this site.

Should we care what others pay? I think so, but it is not something we can really do much about. I know there is a two-tier pricing system and some chicas that get $100 from some guys are more than happy to accept less from others. But as CR continues to flood with more and more inexperienced and/or uneducated mongers who are willing to pay top dollar that pricing structure gets shakier each day. There are already some chicas that stick to that $100 like glue and they do it because they can as they find enough guys that don't realize they can negotiate. Their are even some chicas that are testing the waters for even higher pricing and are getting bites. Can I blame them? Heck, no. They're there to make money and charge as much as the market will bear. Eventually $100 or more could become the standard price they all get (with the better ones getting even more). If the demand is there for them to command that type of price, than that is what the price should be. But when that happens, it will have risen above my particular utility level and I'll stop going to CR for whorticulture and will move on to other places that have not been spoiled.

I don't think the demand is really there to justify those higher prices. Sure we have an increasing flood of wealthy gringos at the DR, but we also have an equally increasing flood of chicas from places with even lower incomes than CR. The ratios still work in our favor. What we really have is a problem of the imperfect spread of information, one of the basic assumptions of classic capitalism. If all gringos knew they could pay much less than $100/hr, most would. If they could no longer any takers at the $100 price maybe some of the girls would go home or leave the market, but I'm guessing most wouldn't.

Can we really tell others what they can pay? Of course not. But we can encourage and educate, which is what the card is all about. How can just spreading information be a bad thing? They'll either buy our arguments or they won't. Trying to somehow enforce it would be another matter.

Is spreading information in this way somehow interfering with the girls' livelihoods and transactions with other guys that should be none of our business? We can present the arguments for why we think it is our business as well as theirs and let them decide what they want to do. It may seem like we are somehow unfairly organizing against these chicas. But what we're really doing is more like organizing to protect our own interests. Besides, the chicas already have their own loosely organized movement to get each other to try and stick to a higher price and they wouldn't be doing that unless they also felt that somehow what rates others charge (or in our case pay) affect the rates they themselves are able to secure. If they feel it is their business what other girls charge, don't we have a right to feel it is our business what other guys pay. Fortunately, their efforts at sticking to a collective price point is not much more effective than our efforts on the other side, but its there (the colombianas have generally been more successful at this than the others). The situation is exactly analogous on our side of the transaction. Each side is just trying to unify its positon to the protect their collective interests. You can't blame a group of sellers for trying to keep prices high or blame a group of buyers from trying to keep them down. Its just simple capitalism.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:14 pm 
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To card or not to card.
I have set up to poll so that we can vote on the issue. I have stated my opinion but consider myself a flexible individual always willing to listen to others opinion. Not that it would have an effect on what I do. I'm going to San Jose spend as much time as I like at the Blue Marlin and it's no ones business but mine what I pay. But I do respect others opinion's and am willing to see their side.

You can disagree without being disagreeable. So no matter the outcome I will still be happy to see everyone at happy hour.
Lee


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:16 am 
Not a Newbie I just don't post much!

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Negotiate out of earshot of her friends and rivals. She may be inclined to agree to 20k, or even 10k, but doesn't want to get the reputation of being "a fifty-dollar girl." A girl referred to one of my ex-faves as such. I was shocked. I had paid her 30k, and more than once!


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:18 pm 
PHD From Del Rey University!

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Cbea20,

What you said is very true out of earshot of her friends. I have had many say now you don't tell the others what I did & what you paid!!!!

Also a common thing we all know is the newbies are target #1!! I heard one Chica say look new meat lets go!! Talk about role reversal?? :lol:

Zippy


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:06 pm 
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Zippy old boy I agree. There is the price they accept, the price they ask for and the price they tell their friends. 99 percent of the time they are not the same. Learn to work the system. New guys get worked by the system, experienced guys understand the system and CRT members work the system. Pricing at the blue marlin is not going to change so learn to make it work for you. Looking forward to May 7 and getting back in the game.
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Lee

Hey old buddy good to see you out & about posting tonight. Did you get old shoe shine boy to get that sticky stuff off those fast feet of yours & does he charge extra for that?? I saw him one day with a very strong solvent & figured that was what he used it on!

You know why I get such good prices? It is because I have a little DIcky discount CARD printed up. Yes I tell them I am little & quick & it wouldn't hurt a bit but I still want my full hour to talk & watch TV with them.

ZIPPY


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 Post subject: Not another card.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:33 pm 
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Zippy:
Not another card! What is it with you guys and card's? I'm going to talk to Big John and see if he will let me set up a little printing press in the lobby. I could pay for my whole stay just by selling you guys cards. Come to think of it I can make business cards for the girls to. Think of all the fun we can have making up appropriate business cards for the different girls. You know sayings like "have silicone will travel". "Three holes for the price of 1". ( I apologize for that one ).

Zippy I would say you were a sick puppy but then I would have to admit to you that I've never met a psychiatrist that would not take me as a patient.
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