Orange wrote:
I don't understand what beef do you have with them. It sounds like you didn't take any of the vacations that were offered. It sounds like you should have gotten more info before sending money. If they didn't give you the info you wanted, you should've walked away clean. Thanks for the heads up, but 99% of the guys on this forum don't require that much hand holding, so they wouldn't be looking to book these types of vacations.
His beef was that he DIDN'T walk away clean. Besides, I don't think he was trying to say that there wasn't any "contributory negligence" on his part. He admits he should've been more decisive in his travel planning rather than going back and forth for nearly 2 years (although its kinda hard to be decisive when you don't have full information. And, yes, the whole purpose of a deposit is to demonstrate one's commitment. OTOH, putting down $8K UPFRONT is WAAYYY over what most REPUTABLE businesses would require for a deposit and even then they'd normally offer at least some sort of partial refund provided it was far enough in advance of the contracted travel date or at least not be on the hook for the FULL cost of a vacation they ultimately did not have to provide. This poster also admitted that he SHOULD have realized all this at the time, that the required advanced deposit (100%? of the already extremely pricey total trip cost) and the extremely limited and vague details that the owner of GF was willing to provide before he laid down that deposit should have been the red flags for him.
The review he provided in that link has already been deleted by that site's administrator for some reason (pressure from GF?). However here is a link to another thread on that website that includes a review by topgun
http://www.viewpoints.com/Global-Fantasies-Belize-review-4dbc5. For Topgun's benefit, I think I should clarify that the current last review in that thread by a customer that GF ACCUSES of being a Ch*ld molester is a DIFFERENT customer and NOT Topgun. I have no idea whether that accusation of that OTHER customer has any merit or is merely GF's way of attempting to deflect blame, HOWEVER there are still PLENTY of OTHER negative reviews of GF by Topgun and MANY OTHERS. Also, IMHO, Topgun's own review in that thread seemed VERY honest and if anything OVERLY fair inasmuch as he ADMITTED partial responsibility for the fiasco AND, again IMHO, was OVERLY forgiving in his treatment of GF's owner (who he even described as seeming like a "great guy" and "friend"). While I don't admire his foolishness, I do admire his courage in being willing to come forward with the embarassing details of his experience in the hopes that he might save someone else from being similarly suckered. IMHO, however foolish GF's customers may be for overpaying in advance for a vacation, there is still NO excuse for the deceptive, dishonest and greedy business practices of GF or the insulting way he chooses to respond to any customer who has the temerity to complain about what he has done to them after the fact.
That said, however, Orange is right on all the other accounts. Even IF GF had provided everything that Topgun THOUGHT they were going to provide, I've never understood why ANYONE would need such "handholding" or would ever pay that much for a vacation that should really cost a small fraction of what outfits like GF charge. Also, FWIW, from everything I've read Belize is probably the WORST country one could go in Central America for an erotic vacation, with the possible exception of Honduras.
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How funny is that?
What does this guy do except collect all the cash? Which is it? A way to make money or a good deal for the clients? I don't see how it could be both since, if big money is to be made there, it will be out of the wallets of the guys that employ their services. And of course either way Magical Mike will always get his cut. Red Flag #6.
