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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:40 am 
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Awesome site Jazzbo! I was not familiar with it but now have it in my favorites.


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I agree with Prolijo that the hotels, food and drinks have gone up but disagree with him on airfares. Roundtrip from Tampa on AA for Oct. $281 total. I remember a few years back paying over $300 on Taca out of MIA. Jetblue out of Orlando $285 as I just purchased one.


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I agree with Prolijo that the hotels, food and drinks have gone up but disagree with him on airfares. Roundtrip from Tampa on AA for Oct. $281 total. I remember a few years back paying over $300 on Taca out of MIA. Jetblue out of Orlando $285 as I just purchased one.


Buzzfla...isn't that $281 fare only for the actual flight, including taxes? When you add in the baggage fees and seat assignments, the total comes to around $340 or $350. Years ago, the airlines didn't add on baggage fees and they didn't charge for seat assignments.

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Buzzfla...isn't that $281 fare only for the actual flight, including taxes? When you add in the baggage fees and seat assignments, the total comes to around $340 or $350. Years ago, the airlines didn't add on baggage fees and they didn't charge for seat assignments.


As long as you use a real airline (that excludes Spirit :twisted: ) there are no baggage charges or seat fees flying to SJO from Florida. American 2 free checked bags, Jet Blue 1 free, TACA 2 free. There are normal weight and size restrictions.

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Doesn't American charge for baggage and seat assignment now? Also, I think Jet Blue charges for certain seats.

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According to the American Airlines website, as of August 14, there is a $20 fee for the first checked bag (each way).

Spirit charges $20 for the 'exit row' seats. I always get those, because of the extra leg room.

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Spirit Air is sounding more like a "real" airline by the minute, right, Brother ID? They are the market maker as the others stuggle to keep up, market-share-wise.

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According to the American Airlines website, as of August 14, there is a $20 fee for the first checked bag (each way).



American does not charge for for the first 2 checked bags on International flights. Two weeks ago I flew SJO/DFW overnighted at DFW so I had to recheck my bags the next day to EWR. Then a week later flew EWR/MIA/SJO. No baggage charges as all the flights were considered part of an international routing. They definitely do not charge for seat assignment.

TACA/Lacsa has never charged for the first two pieces of baggage or for a particular seat. They also provide free meals and booze. To bad they have limited flight schedules to the U.S.

As to JetBlue. Charges for 1 particular row only does not constitute charging for seat assignment in my opinion and they allow 1 piece of checked baggage.

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Spirit Air is sounding more like a "real" airline by the minute, right, Brother ID? They are the market maker as the others stuggle to keep up, market-share-wise.


Yea sure. Their latest little stumble on the path to being a real customer oriented airline.

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Spirit Airlines has been hit with a record civil fine for violating consumer protection regulations.

The U.S. Department of Transportation on Thursday fined the Miramar-based discount carrier $375,000 for failing to comply with rules governing denied boarding compensation, fare advertising, baggage liability and other consumer protection requirements. The civil penalty is a record for these kinds of violations, the DOT said in a media release.

Spirit bumped passengers from oversold flights but did not provide compensation or a written notice of their rights to compensation as required. Spirit also failed to resolve baggage claims within a reasonable period, on one occasion taking 14 months to provide compensation.

In addition, the airline violated DOT rules by providing compensation for delayed baggage only for the outbound leg of round-trip flights and only for purchases made more than 24 hours after arrival. Spirit also violated baggage liability laws for international travel by refusing to accept responsibility for missing laptop computers and certain other items it accepted as baggage, the DOT said.

The airline violated DOT rules requiring airfare ads to state the full price by omitting carrier-imposed fees from the base fare. Spirit also violated DOT rules by failing to retain copies of consumer complaints and by failing to file required reports in a timely manner, the DOT added.

Spirit serves Tampa International Airport with less than 5 percent market share.

“Selling fares for $9 has made us very popular and, a few years ago when we adopted this model, we had some growing pains during the transition,” Spirit spokeswoman Misty Pinson said in an e-mail. “We have addressed all the core issues that caused customer experience challenges a few years ago, including upgrading our computer systems and utilizing a new reservations partner.”

Customer service has suffered at Spirit in favor of cutting costs, said Stuart Klaskin, an aviation analyst with Coral Gables-based Klaskin Kushner & Co.

“I think, for a while, Spirit lost sight of the other factors in the travel experience outside just pricing,” he said. “In fairness, my impression is that they are taking steps to move the airline in a direction where the consumer experience is more positive from a travel perspective, and not just a price perspective.”

But, a reputation for poor service makes Spirit vulnerable to other low-cost carriers angling to compete with them, Klaskin noted. Carriers such as JetBlue and Southwest are expanding their footprints and, given the choice to fly with a carrier that charges a little more money but provides a better customer experience, consumers will do so, he said.

“The great fallacy with low-cost airlines has always been that price wins,” Klaskin said. “There is a service element, too.”

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ID...I stand corrected regarding American's international baggage policy. Thank you for the clarification.
Regarding Spirit, if there was a better alternative, time-wise, I would take that in a second. The 'hidden' fees are indeed ridiculous. I have flown them four times to CR in the past year, and the first three trips were without incident, but the most recent trip, on the return leg, was ridiculous. Their flights always seem to be full or near capacity, but with all the complaints I hear from other travelers, I really don't know how much longer they will be in business.

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I hadn't checked in a while but Buzz is right that fares have crept back down a little. They HAD been hovering in the $330-340 range (barring the occasional sale) for quite a while. GT is also right that there are also a lot more hidden fees than there were before so that we're not really comparing apples and apples. Sure, you can avoid some of those fees if you limit your check-in or even restrict yourself to just carry-on (but some guys like to pack a lot of stuff and they can't anymore without paying extra). Sure, its also true that you can avoid seat-selection charges by just accepting whatever they give you or hoping for the best when the time comes to get on your flight, but you never had to do that before. And the trend definitely seems to more and more charges for everything from basic food & beverage service to, in one case, charges for use of the restroom (thankfully that never passed but it does show which direction the airlines are going). Anyway, even if you ignore these hidden charges, the current $280 is very low for what it has been running (expect that to go back up come peak season). The rates I paid not that many years ago were in the low $200's with occassional sales bringing that rate even lower (my lowest ever was just $160 r/t). So airfares may not have gone up as much as hotels, food and tours, but it has still gone up significantly


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:03 pm 
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I lived here all year in 1995 when the exchange rate soared to 160:1. The price of beer ranged from $.75 -$1.50 (Key Largo) and you could get a little bit of food on the side. Flor de Cana was $4.00 - $6.00. VIP's was $8.00.

Without consulting the experts, it seems to me that costs have outstriped the exchange rates. It is more expensive to live here. However....

The current enonomic downturn has reduced prices. Airfares, while not at their cheapest, are definitely down, and I can book at the lowest fairly close to departure. I use www.compete4yourseat.com I use www.kayak.com to check fares, and they have a handy, up-to-date fee schedule of the airlines. My two criteria are the price and the baggage fees. Delta has two free, Continental, 1 free $25 second, and Us Air is $15.00 & $25.00.

One of the girls at the SL gave me the $100. I didn't bite, so it was $70.00 then $50.00, finally we agreed on $40.00 with no shortchanging.


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