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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:52 am 
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NASA has the ER-2 and WB-57 civilian versions of the U-2 spy plane and the B-57 bomber, at the San Jose airport.
They are in the funny white hangar on the West side.

I have photos if anyone is interested.
Are they taking photos of ox carts in banana plantations? Apparently they study the atmosphere and wear funny orange flight suits when flying high altitudes.

From the China Peoples Daily:

NASA launches study on global warming in Costa Rica


The U.S. NASA launched a research plan on Thursday to check global warming and ozone hole data collected by satellite Aura.

The "Costa-Rica Aura Validation Experiment" will explore Costa Rica's troposphere and the lower stratosphere that are around 12 km above the earth, Paul Newman and Eric Jensen, the leaders of the NASA project said.

Around 170 researchers from the U.S. and Costa Rica will analyze the data and images that are gathered by a WB-57 aircraft equipped with 29 observation instruments in the one-month project.

Combined with the correlative data transmitted from Aura satellite, researchers will work on nephanalysis and probe the water vapour and greenhouse gas.

Scientists from NASA said that the aerospheres above tropical region is very propitious to the research on ozonosphere.

The mission, to be conducted by the scientists, was officially launched by U.S. Ambassador Mark Langdale and Costa Rica's science minister Fernando Gutierrez.

NASA has planned a budget of 8 million U.S. dollars for this program, whose results will be released in two years.

Source: Xinhua





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[i][b]Yo Ace,

as discussed in the Hotels, Transportation section around Aug 30,

I mentioned that the US Dept of COMMERCE is using these planes with highly specialized IR, Microradar, etc scanner cameras to keep track of the acreage planted with 'Coffee ' bushes in Colombia, Peru, Equador, Bolivia and adjacent lands,, with special interest on finding 'Coffee Roasting Labs ' in de jungle. :lol:

Ye sure, report on 'Weather' to be made in 2 years :idea: :lol:

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My guess if you want to learn more keep your eyes open in the gulch. The team that is doing all this is likely to take a stroll every now & then to relieve various issues they have down there, just a hunch....

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Interesting. They won't let our navy ships dock , but they will let NASA keep spy planes there. When they are invaded by Nicaragua, I wonder if NASA will protect them? As a side note, last week when I was at a hotel in Jaco, the desk clerk showed me a list of things I could donate to. Among them were the University and helping to keep the beach clean. I looked right at him and said, "Costa Rica doesn't need more university students. Costa Rica needs people that want to do honest hard work. I will give a buck to clean the beach." :lol:

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A little more information on what the purpose of those planes is and why they are in Costa Rica.

From Inside Costa Rica this morning:

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Scientists Study the Impact of Water on Climate
NASA picked Costa Rica to study these questions because it's one of the places where large amounts of water can actually reach the stratosphere. The reason is massive thunderheads during the rainy season.

By the end of this century, the earth could warm up by two degrees - or 10 degrees. Sea level could rise a few inches - or a few feet. Scientists aren't sure because nothing to do with climate change is simple.

Take greenhouse gases, for example, which trap heat from the sun. The most important greenhouse gas isn't carbon dioxide or methane. It's water. And scientists are still trying to understand what role water has in global warming.

This summer, NASA sent a team to Costa Rica in search of more on information on the topic. One of their most important research tools was a sleek white jet that looks like a U-2 spy plane. Actually, it's a civilian version of the U-2, called the ER-2 — and it's is set up for science.

During one flight, the ER-2 spent the morning gathering information about the atmosphere 10 miles over head. But it wasn't a perfect flight.

Paul Newman, of NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, learned that one piece of the plane's equipment didn't work.

"And it was not long after takeoff that it failed," Newman says.

But it's a minor setback. The day before, lightning punched a small hole in another NASA plane.

Clouds Crucial to Life and Research
It's all part of working in this area of the tropics, which may be the best place on earth to learn more about the role of water in global warming.

"Water is a tremendous greenhouse gas. It can condense and form all these clouds. Clouds can reflect radiation. Clouds can actually insulate the surface, if you got a cloud layer overhead the surface stays a little bit warmer. So water is really crucial to the whole process," Newman says.

To appreciate the importance of water in the atmosphere you have to imagine what the earth would be like without it.

"If we didn't have an atmosphere with water in it, the earth's average temperature would be about 30 degrees Fahrenheit below freezing," says Brian Toon, of the University of Colorado and a member of the Costa Rica team.

More Water Leads to More Water
Water in the atmosphere is absolutely necessary. Unfortunately, water amplifies the effects of other greenhouse gases.

"You add carbon dioxide to the air, you burn a fire, drive a car, something like that, and that carbon dioxide floats up to the upper atmosphere and blocks some of the light from escaping to space, so the earth warms up a little bit," Toon says.

That causes water in the atmosphere to radiate more energy. So the oceans get warmer.

"And when you make water warmer, as everybody knows in their kitchen, more water evaporates and so the atmosphere gets more water in it. And that warms things up even more. So, the net effect of all this is is that if you just put in the carbon dioxide you get a temperature change, but all that water gives you three times more temperature change than you get with the carbon dioxide alone," Toon says.

Water Multiplies Effect of Other Greenhouse Gases
Most water doesn't linger in the atmosphere. It falls back to earth within a week or so.

But in the past couple of decades, it's become clear that if water reaches the stratosphere it can stay there for a long time, just like other greenhouse gases. It's also clear that the amount of water in the stratosphere is increasing.

What's not clear is whether that extra water is the result of human activities and whether it's accelerating global warming.

NASA picked Costa Rica to study these questions because it's one of the places where large amounts of water can actually reach the stratosphere. The reason is massive thunderheads during the rainy season.

Newman says these storms create powerful updrafts that carry water miles into the air.

"In fact, some of these clouds do poke up to very high altitudes, 60,000 feet. And you get cirrus particles, small ice particles, the very feathery kind of clouds you see, they will come off of these thunderstorms," Newman says.

And they transport water into a part of the atmosphere that is normally very dry.

A flight took the ER-2 into high-altitude clouds that were discovered only a few years ago. They're cirrus clouds so thin they're invisible from the ground.

"We actually flew along with the airplane and we had a laser that shoots out the bottom of the plane and you could tell that this sub-visible cirrus was there, so we actually measure it with the laser," Newman says.

Scientists hope the infra-red measurements will show whether these clouds are contributing to the greenhouse effect by reflecting heat back to earth. That won't make climate predictions perfect. But it will make them better.

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ID,

your past with Air traffic control should have made you "suspicious" :shock:
At THis COVER STORY of investigating Earth's Cover :roll: :roll: :lol:


Unless you are trying to "Cover" for DEA-NASA :P

NASA doing NOAA Missions :?: :roll: :roll:

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It is a part of the U.S. governments weather modification research.


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Cygnus wrote:


ID,

your past with Air traffic control should have made you "suspicious" :shock:
At THis COVER STORY of investigating Earth's Cover :roll: :roll: :lol:




Sorry amigo never was an ATC. Got the wrong guy.

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